Arch-dev-public May 2007

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[arch-dev-public] lingering x86_64 mythtv bug
by Paul Mattal 05 May '07

05 May '07

Can the Arch64 folks compiling mythtv have a look at this bug? It seems only to be a problem in the Arch64 binary package. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/5944 - P

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[arch-dev-public] Linuxtag: Staff meeting Saturday 12th 4pm CEST
by Christoph Neuroth 05 May '07

05 May '07

Hi, anyone who wants to help making Linuxtag a nice event again, please try to make it to Freenode/#arch-lt on Saturday 4pm Berlin time so we can discuss remaining topics, as there are: * Arrival/Departure schedules (someone needs to set up and dismantle the booth) * Poster printing * Organizing some shirts with arch logos so vistors know who they can talk to * CD Burning, CD sleeves * other needed stuff Feel free to bring up any other topics you can think of. Also please make sure that I have your full name so I can order exhibitor passes for you. Currently, I ordered passes for Alex, Andreas, Tobias and Jan. And finally if you need some tickets for your friends to be able to visit the fair, I have been given 24 e-tickets that I can share. As in the last years, I will need the full name and a valid email address to send them to you. chris

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[arch-dev-public] On vacation
by Varun Acharya 04 May '07

04 May '07

I'm taking a big long break from 5th-24th May, during which I probably wont have access to even an internet connection. 32bit TU's please help out with community64 if you can .. the difflist is here http://www.archlinux.org/~andyrtr/pkg_diff.html. Thanks, Bye, Varun

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Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch-dev] [goals] i18n
by Jason Chu 04 May '07

04 May '07

On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 11:18:15PM +0200, Andreas Radke wrote: > i'm against offering any localization from the devs. it's a big amount > of packages we don't know how important they are or better how often > they are used*. Is there some way we can find this out instead of just guessing one way or the other? > arch is developed and documented primarly in english and so we should > concentrate to offer a good en_US.utf8 base. nothing more from the core. I don't see why we can't also have good i18n support. > i suggest to lay i18n packages back into the community's hand. those > packages are often easy to maintain but a hell of work for the > rebuilders. Don't the people who maintain these packages have scripts that will just build them all? Jason

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[arch-dev-public] [goals] i18n
by Dan McGee 04 May '07

04 May '07

And why was this on arch-dev and not the public list? Forwarding it there. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> Date: May 3, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [arch-dev] [goals] i18n To: Development Discussion for Arch Linux <arch-dev(a)archlinux.org> On 5/3/07, Andreas Radke <a.radke(a)arcor.de> wrote: > i'm against offering any localization from the devs. it's a big amount > of packages we don't know how important they are or better how often > they are used*. > > arch is developed and documented primarly in english and so we should > concentrate to offer a good en_US.utf8 base. nothing more from the core. > > i suggest to lay i18n packages back into the community's hand. those > packages are often easy to maintain but a hell of work for the > rebuilders. > > Andy > > > > *we should improve archstat to show summarized output for the amount of > one pkgname. that could help a lot for our wanted repo cleanup. Quick thoughts on this, and not sure of the full implementation but it seems like a good idea in my head. Why don't we have an [i18n] repo, just as community and extra are repos? This should be administered under a separate set of permissions, so those that update these packages are not necessarily either TUs or Devs, but other users that have taken on the responsibility of maintaining localization packages. Key to this is some kind of permissions based thing- perhaps a certain user should only be able to modify FR localization packages, for instance. The system should support that, and it seems like pre-commit hooks in nearly all VCS systems should be able to enforce these permissions on a package or repo-level basis. This is another topic though. -Dan

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[arch-dev-public] Linuxtag: Project Description German Translation needed
by Christoph Neuroth 03 May '07

03 May '07

Hi guys, I'm very short on time right now, so it would be good if some other native German speaker could translate our description into German. It will be published on the linuxtag website and in the official printed LT Journal. I used a slightly shortened version of the archlinux.org/about text: >Arch Linux is a general purpose linux distribution that can be molded to do just about anything. It is fast, lightweight, flexible, and most of the parts under the hood are quite simple to understand and tweak, which can make it a good distro to "learn the ropes" on. We do not provide any configuration helper utilities (ie, you won't find linuxconf in here) so you will quickly become very proficient at configuring your system from the shell commandline. > >Arch Linux uses the Pacman package manager, which couples a simple binary package format with an easy-to-use build system, allowing the users to easily manage and customize their packages, whether they be official Arch packages or the user's own homegrown ones. The repository system allows users to build and maintain their own custom package repositories, which encourages community growth and contribution. > >Arch's official package set is fairly streamlined, but we supplement this with a larger, more complete "extra" repository that contains a lot of the stuff that never made it into our core package set. This repository is constantly growing with the help of packages submitted from our strong community. > >Arch Linux uses a "rolling release" system which works like this: We have two versions of our core package set at any given time, Current and Release. The Current repository always contains the latest and greatest versions of packages. As soon as a package is updated it is part of the Current repository, so this is the one to follow if you want to stay very up to date. chris

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[arch-dev-public] new gcc compiler in testing, better java support now
by Jan de Groot 01 May '07

01 May '07

A new compiler snapshot has been uploaded to testing. Lots of new things, many bugfixes, etc. The most important thing here is that gcc-gcj uses eclipse-ecj to compile itself and all programs compiled with gcj. This makes gcc-gcj completely java 5.0 compatible. This package also includes a web plugin, which is far from completed though. This is important for AMD64 users, as Sun doesn't provide one in the official jre package. As a downsides of all these patches, libgcc_s.so now exports a GCC_4.2.0 symbol that wasn't in older releases. Be very careful with this one when building packages for extra/current or community with these compilers, as binaries that link in this versioned symbol will fail to run on older libgcc_s.so libraries. If all is fine with these new compilers, I'll move them into current and extra in a short while. Happy compiling!

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[arch-dev-public] [drotschm@linuxtag.org: [LT07-Pro-Announce] Infomail #4, April 30, 2007]
by Christoph Neuroth 01 May '07

01 May '07

News from the LT guys. I will discuss the mail with alex the next days. Right now I'm just too wasted to think ;) ----- Forwarded message from Wolfgang Drotschmann <drotschm(a)linuxtag.org> ----- Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:25:46 +0200 From: Wolfgang Drotschmann <drotschm(a)linuxtag.org> To: projects-announce(a)linuxtag.org Subject: [LT07-Pro-Announce] Infomail #4, April 30, 2007 Dear Projects, after further brainstorming, research, meetings, negotiations, some tee and beer we have some news for you: o Booth Plans o Booth Furniture o Posters o Power and Internet Connectivity o Setting up and Dismantling Your Booth o Exhibitor Passes o Deliveries o Catalogue / Project Logo o Project Workshops o Accommodation o eTickets So you see, it's a lot of stuff. 1. Booth Plans Finally we have finished the booth planning for the Free Software Projects. You can find the preliminary plans on our website. They are for your eyes only - please do not distribute them! o Hall 12: http://www.linuxtag.org/2007/tmp/aufplanung/LinuxTag2007-Halle12-20070430.p… o Hall 14.1: http://www.linuxtag.org/2007/tmp/aufplanung/LinuxTag2007-Halle14.1-20070430… This year we do not have this much space as the year before. It was a really hard job to fit every project into this plan and we have tried to do our best. 2. Booth Furniture First we have to apologize that you have still to be patient, but Messe Berlin is working very hard on the details of your booth's equipment. One reason for this: we will have much better furniture at the booths this year. There will be (all dimensions are height x width x depth): * Infopoints (2.5 m x 1 m x 1 m): The infopoints have a 2.5 m high and 1 m wide postwall in the middle. At each side, there is a circular desk, which has its deepest point with 0.5 m. * Infocounter (1 m x 1 m x 0.5 m): The infocounter is a normal sales counter, which may be used for presenting giveaways, merchandising, etc. * Podests (narrow) (1.3 m x 0.5 m x 0.5 m): This podests are a kind of counter, but a little bit higher, so they are ideal for putting an LCD display or laptop on it. * Podests (wide) (1.3 m x 1 m x 0.5 m): This podests are a kind of counter, but a little bit higher, so they are ideal for putting two LCD displays or laptops on it. As we from the project committee talked to every project we were able to contact by phone, we assigned some of this stuff to your booth depending on its size and your provided information in the vCC. Please do not send us mails about what will be at your booth: we will provide you detailled plans until May 10th. Then there will be a short timeslot for discussing your change requests. 3. Posters Please prepare at least one large poster (A1 or A0) to be placed on the walls of your booth or infopoint, so that visitors understand what the booth is all about, or what the particular machine in front of them intends to demonstrate. Without posters or other similar stuff the booth will probably look a bit deserted and not that interesting at all. There are just very few booths which have all four sides open and therefore have no wall to put posters on. This projects will have the Infopoints (see above) at their booth. They should prepare for each side of the infopoint a poster. You can use adhesive tape to fix the posters on the walls. If you plan to demonstrate fancy hardware at your booth, it is very helpful to describe these particular pieces of hardware in a poster or a large sign, so that visitors recognise its value or notice that it is extraordinary. 4. Power and Internet Connectivity Power and Internet will be provided by LinuxTag and Messe Berlin for the project booths. You don't have to worry about these. However, you'll need to take enough extension cords and power multiplier sockets with you. We cannot provide them in a proper number for all projects. If you use a cable drum for distributing power, please make sure not to connect any computers or monitors to it unless you've pulled off the entire cable. If you plan to present special hardware, like several servers, which will consume very much power, please contact us. Please be advised to take long network cables with you. You will also need some switches for the inner-booth network. If you share your booth with other projects, you probably should plan the booth cabling together with them. 5. Setting up and Dismantling Your Booth You can setup your booth the two days before LinuxTag opens its doors. On Monday, May 28th, and Tuesday, May 29th, you setup and decorate your booth from 7 am to 10 pm. The earlier you arrive and begin with this the better for all to solve eventually arising problems here. We hope that the booth basics are ready for you when you arrive. Otherwise, please stand nearby, and make sure to have a guard at your stuff. Because LinuxTag will be opened on Tuesday, May 30th, by some officials there is no way to setup your booth this day, it has to be done before. As usual it is not permitted to start dismantling your booth on Saturday, June 2nd, before the show officially closes. Please do not start packing your equipment befor 6:30 p.m. You also can dismantle your booth on Sunday, May 3rd, from 7 am to 10 pm. To get into the exihibtion halls during setup, we will send you special exhibitor passes, which are only valid for the setup and dismantling time. We will send them to our project contact person. Please update your postal address until Friday, May 4th. 6. Exhibitor Passes The exhibitor passes for project booth members will continue to be free of cost for a reasonable amount of booth personnel. However, they are not meant as a means for regular visitors to save the entrance-fee. Hence, please don't abuse this, and don't add random visitors as booth staff if they don't belong to your booth. For this matter we already sent you some eTickets. You can order the exhibitor passes for each accepted project using the vCC. Please login at the virtual Conference Center and click in the Main menu on "Project" and then in submenu on "Projects". Each accepted project will find a button "Order exhibitor passes". After you ordered the passes, we will have a look at the list and approve them. Otherwise you will get an email from us. The deadline for ordering exhibitor passes is May 21st. 7. Deliveries It is possible to send packaged stuff to LinuxTag independent of your own arrival. However, Messe Berlin is a very large area, and if nobody knows about the packages, these cannot be taken care of properly. Please ensure that they will not be delivered before May 25th, as nobody's there before. Please read the following thoroughly: * At all times parcel post can be send to the parcel service of Messe Berlin which can be ordered using form B3+4 at our exihibitor service sites. Advantages are: it will arrive on schedule, parcel is covered by insurance. * You can send parcel post in little amounts (quantity and size) to us ---that is Messeleitung LinuxTag Projektbüro, please see address later on--- but only May 25th (Friday) or 26th (Saturday). Please keep in mind that via this way parcel will not be insured. Hence, please tell us who sends the packets, who should receive the stuff, and what kind of content is in. The Project Team will act as dispatcher anyway, but can only accept and dispatch stuff properly when the team knows about it. For this reason, send us an email (to projects(a)linuxtag.org) with this subject: Parcel Post for Project $projectname (#boothno). Please send packages to Messeleitung LinuxTag Projektbüro c/o Messe Berlin GmbH ICC Pressegeschoss Messedamm 22 D-14055 Berlin Germany Please put on the package (but not to the address field) the project name, the booth number, a contact person and a phone number (cellular). * Starting with May 29th (Tuesday), you can receive parcel straight at your booth. You have to make sure that there's somebody who accepts the packet. Please only use the address given here, and please inform us about the deliveries you expect. If you choose to send it to your booth, use this formula for the address: PROJECTNAME HALL, BOOTHNUMBER c/o Messe Berlin GmbH Messedamm 22 D-14055 Berlin Germany 8. Catalogue / Project Logo We are currently providing the official fair catalogue. Therefore we will take the information from the vCC. Please have a look at the following fields: * Project Name * Press Contact * Descriptions (short, long) Additionally we need your logo in an vector format (EPS, PDF) and as bitmap (JPG or PNG at most 400 kB). Please send it via email to projects(a)linuxtag.org, and please use this subject "Project Logos for $PROJECTNAME". It is very important that you use the correct subject line. Deadline for the logo and the vCC information is on Monday, May 7th. 9. Project Workshops There are still opportunities to have a Project Workshop. Use your vCC account to place submissions with category "Project Workshop" in our vCC. Extended closing date is May 14, 2007. 10. Accommodation The city has an enourmous, nearly innumerable number of accommodation facilities. Because we have to organise many things virtually, it's hard for us to give you foolproof advice on this score. However, we hope that Sven Guckes, our local scout, can provide us with further recommendations within next week about a number of hostels. We have heard from several projects that they already have made arrangements here. We want to ask you to exchange information if you have special arrangements, you can make your accommodation provider happy if you book him out together with your fellows. Although we had started to look for a gym, things went on very tough. We are sorry for this. We look for volunteer who finds a gym for the community, or who can help Sven. First and good information for traveling to Berlin and Messe Berlin has been collected here: http://www.linuxtag.org/2007/de/besucher/anreise.html A number of service providers for accommodation has been listed here: http://www.linuxtag.org/2007/de/besucher/hotels-packages.html 11. eTickets Like last year, we will send each project a bunch of eTickets, which you should spread amoung your project community. The tickets are quite the same like last year, but one ticket is now valid for the whole LinuxTag event. So you do not have to collect more of them. Because we encountered some trouble last year, we urge you to activate your eTicket account immediately after you got the mail from the system: the invitations are only valid for 48 hours and the tickets will be lost afterwards. So, you will hear from us until May, 10th! Regards, Susanne Pfeifer, Wolfgang Drotschmann, Marko Jung & Martin Schulte Project Committee LinuxTag 2007 ----- End forwarded message -----

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