Arch-dev-public August 2022

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Re: [arch-dev-public] openssl 3.0
by Pierre Schmitz 15 Dec '22

15 Dec '22

Hi Jelle, (also forwarding to dev-public) definitely yes, OpenSSL 3.0 is on my wish list! :-) I did not want to jump on it at day one though. Even the last minor updates were quite painful and we still have packages requiring version 1.0 and are still not compatible with 1.1. While they claim that most packages should work with a recompile, it would be nice to actually know which packages are not compatible. This should help whether we need another compatibility package are would be able to just replace openssl 1.1 with version 3. I know about foutrelis' awesome rebuilder script, but I wonder if we have something similar that I just could run for half a day to get an idea which package would break and which wont? Like a dry run that wont commit anything. If no such thing exists yet, I might have a look myself. Greetings, Pierre On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 9:14 PM Jelle van der Waa <jelle(a)vdwaa.nl> wrote: > > Hi Pierre, > > Shall we start an openssl 3.0 rebuild soon? Fedora/Debian/Alpine seens > to have already started. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OpenSSL3.0 > > Greetings, > > Jelle -- Pierre Schmitz, https://pierre-schmitz.com

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The future of arch-commits
by Kristian Klausen 12 Sep '22

12 Sep '22

Hi all, I'm in the process of migrating our mailing lists from mailman2 to mailman3[1]. Migrating arch-commits could be a challenge though (+1 million mails) and just deprecating it would be easier :) So, is there any reasons for not deprecating it? How are you using it and could that need be met in some other (and perhaps better) way? [1] https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/infrastructure/-/issues/59 Cheers, Kristian Klausen

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Dropping Cura from the repositories
by Jelle van der Waa 01 Sep '22

01 Sep '22

Hi, I've maintained Cura (3d printing slicer) for a while but I no longer find the energy to maintain it and keep it updated. If anyone is interested in adopting it feel free, otherwise I will drop it to the AUR in 2 weeks. Note that there is a flatpak available as alternative https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.ultimaker.cura Greetings, Jelle

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Konstantin Gizdov is now a developer
by Sven-Hendrik Haase 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

Hey everyone, I internally proposed Konstantin Gizdov to become a developer for his sustained good work on Arch Linux and the need to touch some [extra] packages sometimes. I'm pleased to announce that he has now become a full developer. All the relevant steps have been completed and he should now already be fully onboarded. Welcome aboard, Konstantin! Sven

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repod 0.2.0 release - call for testing and participation
by David Runge 22 Aug '22

22 Aug '22

Hi all, I've just released repod 0.2.0 [1] (it is available as "repod" in our repositories). There are some significant changes in this release which allow for rudimentary handling of binary package repositories in configurable directory structures. For further information please refer to the documentation [2]. I would like to take the time and invite *everyone* (people involved with any distribution making use of pacman as well as their users - especially those with private package repositories) to participate in testing and improving repod. The project is actively maintained (although admittedly currently I am the main developer working on it and additional contributions - although present and valuable - are rare) and does bi-weekly meetings. Repod aims at generically offering the ability to maintain binary package repositories of alpm based packages. As such it transcends Arch Linux as its only client - the software is meant for Arch Linux, downstream distributions and private users alike! TL;DR: Please help the development of repod and associated tooling as it is important for all pacman based distributions and their users. Historically we have had quite a few distribution driven projects which allow us to do the things we do today (e.g. mkinitcpio, archiso, archweb, aurweb, dbscripts, arch-install-scripts, devtools, etc.). All of them have in common, that they lack dedicated development from time to time or are so large/old/deep that they require more than one person to "have the hat on". This being said: I do not feel comfortable being the only/ main person currently developing repod. The project is entwined with our pursuit of moving our packaging infrastructure to a more modern, git based setup in which package sources are separated from the binary packages that are built from them (opposite to how it is currently handled with dbscripts). This process is a gradual one in which we try to decouple the source repositories from the binary package repository state, while offering certain stability guarantees when consuming and handling packages. Upcoming work will entail dealing with necessary checks required for basic movement operations, which will consolidate a lot of (partially unused) code in the dbscripts project. For a more detailed overview for further topics, please have a look at the milestones [3]. Working on the upcoming features could use many more eyes and helping hands! Another piece of the puzzle when looking at moving to a git based workflow and improving our tooling, is the automation for builds/rebuilds (the road between our package source repositories and the binary package repository management software - e.g. repod). For this some solutions exist, some of which are VCS agnostic and some of which we use in larger rebuilds all the time. Morten has started to look at a buildbot based system which could be used for rebuild scenarios and also for building different architectures in the future. To my knowledge this is still very much a WIP, but if you are interested, idle in #archlinux-projects on libera.chat to get exposed to more information (this is also the case for repod btw!). I hope I was able to give a brief overview of what is the current state of things, where we want to go from here and spark some enthusiam about the above projects. There is still a lot of work left to be done for us and any help is much appreciated! :) Best, David [1] https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/repod/-/tags/0.2.0 [2] https://repod.archilnux.page [3] https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/repod/-/milestones -- https://sleepmap.de

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Away till end of August
by Leonidas Spyropoulos 12 Aug '22

12 Aug '22

Hello, I will be off till the end of August traveling and taking some time off. While I will have matrix on my phone for IRC communication I won't be having resonably stable internet and easy access to the key for packaging updates. Feel free to update any of my packages along with the ones below which have no co-maintainers except myself. # Packages $ pkgsearch -m artafinde -l 1 corectrl freeplane gdu gitlab-exporter keycloak-archlinux-theme makedumpfile memray polybar prometheus-systemd-exporter vulture Thank you, -- Leonidas Spyropoulos PGP: 59E43E106B247368

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Arch Linux in July 2022
by Levente Polyak 09 Aug '22

09 Aug '22

## archlinux-keyring The archlinux-keyring package gained a systemd service and timer unit which updates existing PGP keys used by pacman on user systems by default on a weekly basis from Arch Linux's web key directory (WKD)[0]. This service is meant to remove the necessity for most cases of "first upgrade your archlinux-keyring and then do a system upgrade" until pacman itself will be able to deal with this scenario natively. A new main signing key 75BD80E4D834509F6E740257B1B73B02CC52A02A was added to the keyring. Efforts to sign all active packager keys with it are ongoing, currently around 85% of the existing keys have been signed already. ## pacman Extend --print-format with all expac format strings which can be easily added without conversions and through a simple C macro. ## Wiki After almost three years, the Lockdown extension is finally disabled and the recent changes page, page history and others are once again visible without having to log in. [1] ## repod A first release has been made, which supports rudimentary validation, inspection of package files and is available in the official repositories (see this blog post [2] for an overview). Help with the development of the project would be much appreciated. [0] https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/archlinux-keyring/-/commit/e5a2665a4… [1] https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/infrastructure/-/merge_requests/597 [2] https://sleepmap.de/2022/managing-binary-package-repositories/

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TU resignation
by Nicola Squartini 09 Aug '22

09 Aug '22

Dear all, Due to my involvement in other projects I'm unable to dedicate the time it deserves to Arch Linux, therefore I decided to resign from my role of Trusted User. I thank György Balló for sponsoring me 6 years ago, and everybody else who supported me during this time. It's been an honor and pleasure for me working with you. Best regards, Nicola

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Configure mailing lists to automatically reject mails by non-members
by David Runge 09 Aug '22

09 Aug '22

Hi all, I'm currently partly moderating mailing lists for Arch Linux. Since we've switched to mailman3 I receive *a lot* of info from the system, that mails are being held in the moderation queue due to being sent by non-members of the respective lists. IMHO, we should configure all of our mailing lists to be subscription only (i.e. automatically reject all mail by non-members). It makes no sense for anyone to moderate these emails and is a huge waste of time for people dealing with the moderation of the lists (I get enough spam everyday as it is... ;-)). While at it: To my knowledge, we are currently still allowing HTML emails to be sent to the lists and I think those should be automatically rejected as well, as it is unnecessary bloat and is not fitting our context at all (we are not trying to click-track users on a commercial info list). Best, David -- https://sleepmap.de

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Postponing August ISO due to kernel bug
by Pierre Schmitz 05 Aug '22

05 Aug '22

Hi all, nl6720 informed me about a recent kernel bug that prevents some older CPU models to boot*. While a simple workaround exists, I agree that this issue might be quite unexpected and frustrating for users. Especially since releasing a new install media on the 1st each month is more a tradition than an actual need. Therefore I'll wait for a fixed linux package. (the July ISO is still pretty recent :-)) Greetings, Pierre *) https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/75478 -- Pierre Schmitz, https://pierre-schmitz.com

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