Andreas Radke wrote:
Am Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:27:44 +0100 schrieb Andrea Scarpino <andrea@archlinux.org>:
On 09/11/2009, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
I see a lot of bugs getting closed with "Upstream" lately because they're not packaging bugs. This is not the way to solve bugs. The only bugs that should be closed upstream are the ones in binary modules like flashplugin or nvidia binary drivers. Opensource software can be fixed or debugged, so we should do that instead of using this bogus closure option. I agree with you here. We should debug or fix software issues (I closed 30 minutes ago an upstream bug about sonata, but I will investigate on that), anyway the recent closed bugs are about kernel and some devices and I do not know how many of us are kernel developers.
A can't completely agree on that. While it is ok to keep such a bug open the debugging and fixing should be done in the upstream bugtracker not in our one.
Our users too often expect the packager (or the one who helped out) to solve configuration problems, debug code and fix the bug or do the upstream communication. I can't do this and don't want to do this for all my packages. It's already hard enough to follow all the mailing lists to see major changes and where our packaging is affected.
I'm not interested to do upstream work where I don't want to. I'm just a packager for Arch Linux.
I second Andy's opinion. It's not that I don't want to fix bugs upstream, I just disagree that our bugtracker is a place to track them. That said, I think it's reasonable for us to try to *report* them upstream even if they aren't *fixed* by us. Perhaps we should agree to: 1) Make sure the bug is reported upstream first and, 2) Put a URL in a comment or the closing message pointing to that bug report upstream before closing with 'Upstream'. - P