Le 12/02/2019 à 19:16, Gaetan Bisson a écrit :
[2019-02-12 16:40:08 +0100] Bruno Pagani via arch-dev-public:
Just in case it wasn’t clear, my answer would have been mostly the same as Eli’s.
So, Gaetan, Allan and Bartłomiej (or anyone else for that matter), do you have further comments/questions regarding this, does the existence of the base group alongside the arch/minimal-system now makes sense or would you still prefer to go without it? Allan and I have both stated that we don't want to introduce a new group since we believe it would be highly redundant with base.
Nothing new has been said since our last messages except Eli's post which argues that the base group is largely inadequate in its current state. This further supports our proposal that base should be improved instead of introducing a new group.
So I really don't see what arguments could have changed our minds... It's also strange to me how you can concur with Eli's post without agreeing with our conclusions.
We did not read Eli the same way apparently. To me, Eli was answering what should be in the base group but not in the arch/minimal-system metapackage. And then I agree with what he listed. So my question is: given what we propose for the minimal metapackage (see below) and what Eli listed as being useful in a base group when seeing this one as a convenient helper, do you still think that keeping the base group is problematic? If so, then I propose we just move on with removing the base group and implementing the metapackage, I care much more for getting this one set up than for keeping base.
To go forward I suggest you propose a clear definition of the perfect "minimal system" group you'd want to have, along with a proposed list of packages.
The list is available in the very first post (by Levente) of this thread. ;)
When consensus is reached, we adopt this list of packages for base and put this definition on the wiki.
As later clarified by Levente, not for base, but for a new metapackage with a different name to avoid confusion (whether we keep the base group or not I think). Regards, Bruno