/me disappears and takes a full timeout for an uncertain amount of time. have fun guys, greetings tpowa
Tobias, you have proved to do a very good job maintaining the kernel26 now for both architectures. And our community seems to be satisfied with your work. Yes, Arch's mission is to ship KISS packages. Mainly in the way to use and setup the system, not always KISS to package. The package should simply work in most cases. And when it's broken in certain parts we fix it. Even if this means backporting features(=sometimes hardware enhancements) and fixes not applied in Linus tree. Hey, we are Arch - means we are known to ship a binary metadistribution offering the base for latest and greatest OpenSource features and packages. Keeping that in mind I wonder why some of us want to break down all patching and feature enhancements. Some of us are working on LiveCDs, why not. Others work on Compiz'ing all desktops. Why do you want to forbid the master kernel26 maintainer to add features he wants to support? Me just wonders. As Linus said it's up to the distributions to make a good kernel out of what they ship "vanilla". It just depends on your target user group. We are not here to only satisfy our own! The only point I see tpowa should improve is a bit more documentation for all the added lines and patches. What I see more and more becoming a big problem is defining the Arch way. see dev /wiki/Goals/ /wiki/Objectives/ - both are just suggestions. Did we finish that discussion? The bigger we grow the harder it becomes to satisfy the "edge" (desktop) user at the same time together with those who want to run Arch on critical (server) systems. Many compromises we made and just are discussing about could be solved by splitting arch up into two dedicated parts: one for the edge and one for critical systems. Some seem to like it and some don't. Andy