Guys, For the umpteenth time today I stared at ssh wondering why it wasn't accepting incoming connections until I remembered about tcp_wrappers junk, and put the standard "sshd : ALL : allow" line in hosts.allow. Does anyone use this for anything useful at all? 1. The package is now at version 7.6-12 (clearly it is getting a lot of upstream attention) 2. We have 11 patches applied to the package 3. It is inferior to iptables-based filtering 4. It is not very transparent Discussion welcome, but I am raising a vote to remove this dependency from packages currently using it (hopefully this is possible for all 21 of them, http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/tcp_wrappers/) and eventually remove it from core and the repositories. -Dan