Allan McRae wrote:
Xavier wrote:
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
The way pacman calls the scriptlets, it actually uses the shell from the _parent_ system. I know this for a fact, because Dan and I investigated, added checks for bash in the chroot, then realized it didn't matter and reverted it.
Are you _sure_ it's bash failing like you suspect? What happens if you just install vi and library deps in a chroot and try to run things manually?
I am not sure why we are talking about bash here, the shell used is /bin/sh which can be any shells, right? Are you sure the shell from the parent system is used? I could not find this documented anywhere. How do you explain that installing bash or adding a sh->dash symlink inside the chroot helps then?
To Allan : did you find any scriptlets which actually worked without bash installed? Even the most basic scriptlet not doing anything does not work here.
In short, No. But why am I getting no install scriptlet errors when I install all of base you might ask... Well, that was doing my head in and here is the answer. Doing a "pamcan -r somedir -S base" installs the following programs who have install scriptlet (according to ABS) before bash: glibc,readline, db, pam, shadow
glibc, db and shadow do not use post_install so they do not test the need for bash. However, both readline and pam do use post_install so it appears they are running. Why is that? Because the package do not actually include the install script due to lack of install line in their PKGBUILD. All my tests with dummy packages with post_install scripts doing simple things like "return 0" or even nothing do not work unless bash is installed. So it looks like we are really using the bash on the _child_ system, not the parent. Which would make sense (how do you chroot to the child system and still access the parents bash?).
And here is my plan to fix this. - Remove the post_install script from readline - it is installed before tex-info anyway due to readline -> bash -> gzip -> tex-info. I'd give texinfo a dep on 'sh' in case the bash->gzip link ever breaks. - All packages (at least in core) with an install script must depend on 'sh' and programs needed to run their install script functions (see start of thread). We run into a problem if any dep of bash needs a pre/post_install. These packages currently are kernel-headers, tzdata, glibc, ncurses, and readline. Now wait for Dan to point out that dash has no deps so could be our default sh... which is why I suggest depending on 'sh' rather than bash. Allan