i'd like to change the nvram device permissions rule in udev.rules we provide. at the moment the line in /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules is the following: KERNEL=="nvram", NAME="misc/%k", SYMLINK+="%k" what leads to [damir@Apollon dev]$ ls -la /dev/misc/nvram crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 144 2007-08-17 18:40 /dev/misc/nvram being not accessible otherwise than root. and i want to change it to KERNEL=="nvram", NAME="misc/%k", SYMLINK+="%k" MODE="0666" so that any app or user can read nvram. this is needed by some tools for some hardware (e.g. thinkpads and buttons). alternatively i would allow only group to read it and have a group called nvram. what do you think? i know that everybody having a thinkpad is changing permissions to nvram device on arch boxes the one or other way... lets settle this the right way at the root ;) thanx + have a nice weekend, Damir (from the new laptop - almost running as i want it *smile*)