Hi all, FS#12890 (http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12890) suggests we clean up some crud from the base group. I started a wiki page back in July to look at doing this (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Allan/Base_Cleanup), which should not be too outdated. The basic premise in my clean up was 1) remove "useless"/unneeded packages 2) remove packages that are in the base group only because they are dependencies of packages in the base group. An example for #2: no-one really wants to install libfetch apart from for use by pacman. Thus libfetch does not need to be part of the base group. That might be slightly controversial... but I think it makes sense. When I install, I look through the package lists and select the packages I need. I do not directly need libfetch but I do select pacman. Thus pacman is directly part of my base install but libfetch is only indirectly. I need opinions here. Does this make sense to people? Have my selections been too strict or not strict enough? Allan