The sources are documented in PKGBUILd and the things are all from stable kernel trees. We have no stability problem else you would have read much more on the ML,FORUM or BUGTRACKER. (You want to pretend this but it doesn't matter which road you drive you are never sure if it works or breaks something else, it's too complex. Also .x kernels can have issues, the perfect kernel is and will not be reality, this is what i can tell ya of doing it the last months/years) You never know when linus or greg decides to release .x kernels. So interim patching makes sense. The particular feature request is usable and works, i tested it here and if you don't give a damn about acpi-cpufreq(which is not autoloaded at all) you are not affected at all. If this patch existed 1.5 years ago i wouldn't have needed to change the dip switches of my mainboard to undervolt. I was flamed for not adding genpatches some time ago, now we have some of them, wham again flamed. Last time i was flamed for not adding particular filesystems to the kernel because i doubted they port their patches to higher kernels (in the beginning, after seeing it's maintained well it's not a big deal) Using latest alsa has big benefits of supporting latest hardware and get latest fixes for the drivers and it's a seperate kernel subsystem where this works. (and sorry to say that, alsa seems to have issues everytime, thats not the fault of alsa but the fault of the vendors that use so many different types of chips and bioses) Violating KISS is not the point here it has nothing to do with it, also the arch way is not offended. Telling that the majority of devs are against it, show it to me. (The loudest ones are not the majority) I always thought we trust each other in doing the work, but flaming and bikeshedding seems to be our new hobby here. have a nice day greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa@archlinux.org