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Florian Pritz

6 Aug 2016 6 Aug '16

10:18 a.m.

Hi, We have quite a few packages that are marked out of date for more than a month[1]. Some of them even for a year or two. You can also view a list of your own packages via the link on the developer dashboard under the heading "Developer Reports". Can everyone please either update their packages or explain here why each package is not being updated? If it's due to lack of interest, please consider orphaning it and post the names of the packages here so they can be adopted. If a package is flagged incorrectly, please unflag it. [1] https://www.archlinux.org/devel/reports/long-out-of-date/ Florian

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Antonio Rojas

6 Aug 6 Aug

11:54 a.m.

Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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Can everyone please either update their packages or explain here why each package is not being updated? If it's due to lack of interest, please consider orphaning it and post the names of the packages here so they can be adopted.

If a package is flagged incorrectly, please unflag it.

+1, would also be good if devs/TUs who have been inactive for some months could give us an update on their status

Jerome Leclanche

3:10 p.m.

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https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/firefox-firebug/

We shouldn't really be packaging Firefox extensions... J. Leclanche On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Antonio Rojas wrote:

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Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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Can everyone please either update their packages or explain here why each package is not being updated? If it's due to lack of interest, please consider orphaning it and post the names of the packages here so they can be adopted.

If a package is flagged incorrectly, please unflag it.

+1, would also be good if devs/TUs who have been inactive for some months could give us an update on their status

Ray Rashif

11:19 p.m.

Hi all I am guilty of leaving some packages out-of-date and some tickets sitting idle for a while now, and for being "intermittently inactive" since like forever. It's all caused by an initial breakage of my Linux system due to a hardware issue a year ago and of course RL (so I have not yet managed the time to reconfigure my system to my liking, while continue to using Windows to my disliking). Although I can't put a date I still have to get back full-time on my Arch machine because my daily productivity has gone down and I need to boost back up. Nevertheless, I still use these packages whenever I boot into Arch, and have received some user input towards updating them which I have promised to incorporate. I'll disown any if I can't do them justice by the end of next week. On 6 August 2016 at 19:10, Jerome Leclanche wrote:

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https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/firefox-firebug/

We shouldn't really be packaging Firefox extensions... J. Leclanche

On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Antonio Rojas wrote:

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Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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Can everyone please either update their packages or explain here why each package is not being updated? If it's due to lack of interest, please consider orphaning it and post the names of the packages here so they can be adopted.

If a package is flagged incorrectly, please unflag it.

+1, would also be good if devs/TUs who have been inactive for some months could give us an update on their status

-- GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1

Ray Rashif

20 Oct 20 Oct

12:24 a.m.

On 7 August 2016 at 03:19, Ray Rashif wrote:

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Hi all

I am guilty of leaving some packages out-of-date and some tickets sitting idle for a while now, and for being "intermittently inactive" since like forever. ...

I have gotten around to my LOODs, but please leave these alone: - liblo: this was flagged by me as a reminder based on a user's e-mail [1] - ardour: awaiting testing - libffado: compilation issues, didn't dig [2]

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I'll disown any if I can't do them justice by the end of next week.

I realized this was and is, as identified by a friendly user in another discussion, a very poor solution. [1] To move to a "non-stable" github update, but help appreciated if anyone has already done the "move". [2] Help appreciated in identifying the patch or at least the cause. -- GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1

Antonio Rojas

1:15 p.m.

El Thu, 20 Oct 2016 04:24:10 +0600, Ray Rashif via arch-dev-public escribió:

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- liblo: this was flagged by me as a reminder based on a user's e-mail [1] - ardour: awaiting testing - libffado: compilation issues, didn't dig [2] . [2] Help appreciated in identifying the patch or at least the cause.

Fedora patch: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/libffado.git/tree/libffado-gcc6.patc...

Gaetan Bisson

7 Aug 7 Aug

7:10 a.m.

[2016-08-06 16:10:04 +0300] Jerome Leclanche:

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https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/firefox-firebug/

We shouldn't really be packaging Firefox extensions...

It really makes no difference whether it's a browser extension or an ordinary piece of software: we simply shouldn't keep packages in our repos that we aren't able to update in a timely manner. -- Gaetan

Bartłomiej Piotrowski

17 Aug 17 Aug

8:52 p.m.

On 2016-08-06 10:18, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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Hi,

We have quite a few packages that are marked out of date for more than a month[1]. Some of them even for a year or two. You can also view a list of your own packages via the link on the developer dashboard under the heading "Developer Reports".

Can everyone please either update their packages or explain here why each package is not being updated? If it's due to lack of interest, please consider orphaning it and post the names of the packages here so they can be adopted.

If a package is flagged incorrectly, please unflag it.

[1] https://www.archlinux.org/devel/reports/long-out-of-date/

Florian

While I'm no saint either, Ceph package is out of date since November last year and received only minor upgrades despite newer releases availability. 2 weeks ago I asked Sebastien on #archlinux-devops why he didn't upgrade it despite his activity with other packages to no avail. This week I'm going to rebuild dependent packages to disable Ceph support and then move Ceph itself to AUR. Bartłomiej

Sébastien Luttringer

9:20 p.m.

On mer., 2016-08-17 at 20:52 +0200, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote:

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On 2016-08-06 10:18, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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While I'm no saint either, Ceph package is out of date since November last year and received only minor upgrades despite newer releases availability. 2 weeks ago I asked Sebastien on #archlinux-devops why he didn't upgrade it despite his activity with other packages to no avail.

I didn't get your message on #archlinux-devops. You really didn't find any other way to talk to me? I have a working package since few weeks with the latest version. I needs to check again some things.

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This week I'm going to rebuild dependent packages to disable Ceph support and then move Ceph itself to AUR.

What is this ? Seriously! A blackmail to upgrade package. ceph was updated 8 months ago. We have flagged packages built in 2013. You don't even know why I postpone the upgrade. This kind of threat is inappropriate. -- Sébastien "Seblu" Luttringer https://seblu.net | Twitter: @seblu42 GPG: 0x2072D77A

Bartłomiej Piotrowski

9:35 p.m.

On 2016-08-17 21:20, Sébastien Luttringer wrote:

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I didn't get your message on #archlinux-devops. You really didn't find any other way to talk to me?

Even without my question on IRC, you at least got out-of-date notification and Florian's message about rotten packages. There is also a bug report stating that package is unusable, created in February. Is that really not enough?

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This kind of threat is inappropriate.

Lack of communication on your side is inappropriate. If there is a good reason not to upgrade a package, put that information somewhere, instead of letting it decay. Bartłomiej

Florian Pritz

9:40 p.m.

On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:35:02 PM CEST Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote:

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If there is a good reason not to upgrade a package, put that information somewhere, instead of letting it decay.

Since I'm running into this with opencascade myself: Where would that be? Should it be posted to this list? If so: opencascade is currently not being updated because freecad won't build with opencascade 7.0. freecad-git has patches for the problems, but I haven't yet had the time to look into backporting them. Florian

Christian Hesse

9:52 p.m.

Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public on Wed, 2016/08/17 21:40:

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On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:35:02 PM CEST Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote:

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If there is a good reason not to upgrade a package, put that information somewhere, instead of letting it decay.

Since I'm running into this with opencascade myself: Where would that be? Should it be posted to this list?

Unflag the package, then flag it yourself with a comment of the details. At least devs can find the information there. -- main(a){char*c=/* Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH" "CX:;",b;for(a/* Best regards my address: */=0;b=c[a++];) putchar(b-1/(/* Chris cc -ox -xc - && ./x */b/42*2-3)*42);}

Florian Pritz

10 p.m.

On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:52:40 PM CEST you wrote:

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Since I'm running into this with opencascade myself: Where would that be? Should it be posted to this list?

Unflag the package, then flag it yourself with a comment of the details. At least devs can find the information there.

Good idea, thanks! Florian

Allan McRae

18 Aug 18 Aug

3:36 a.m.

On 18/08/16 05:52, Christian Hesse wrote:

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Unflag the package, then flag it yourself with a comment of the details. At least devs can find the information there.

As a "bonus", unflagged then reflagging makes the package look as if it has only been out-of-date for 1 day...

Sébastien Luttringer

17 Aug 17 Aug

11:30 p.m.

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On 2016-08-17 21:20, Sébastien Luttringer wrote:

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Even without my question on IRC, you at least got out-of-date notification and Florian's message about rotten packages. I see Florian message (good initiative btw). It makes me review my flagged

On mer., 2016-08-17 at 21:35 +0200, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: packages and be happy to not have "more than one year" flagged packages. It has remembered me that I have Ceph to update. I decided after that to prioritize packaging updates over devops in the next weeks in order to fix this (one package).

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There is also a bug report stating that package is unusable, created in February. The jerasure code was not enabled in this package. It never works, the rest of ceph yes. I've 300 hypervisors running Arch with this version. I see no big deal.

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Is that really not enough? Enough for what? If you really wanna help me, you just talk to me and offer your help, but you don't send a rocket on the public list.

«Seb, I think we are providing a bad user experience to not updating Ceph since so long» would be a better approach. I get a user offering his help by mail few days ago about docker 1.12. A stranger, not a guy I work with like you. Moreover, I got the same issue with e2fsprogs (not a package like ceph used by few braves) recently. Package was not updated since ~1 year and it prevented me from upgrading my raid array to 30TB. I sent a nice mail to the maintainer and asked him if I can upgrade the package. He was ok. I did it[1]. End of story.

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This kind of threat is inappropriate.

Lack of communication on your side is inappropriate. If there is a good reason not to upgrade a package, put that information somewhere, instead of letting it decay.

I don't see much communication about why packages are not updated. Why are you asking me think others don't do? Why are you targeting me where is this so much package more out-of-date ? You sent a resignation mail 1 year and half ago, since then I never see you as active and not communication about that. That's lack of communication. I'm spending enough hours by week to works on that projet to not have to receive this kind of direct attack. I say it again, this kind of threat are not acceptable between us. Please never do that again. [1] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/e2f sprogs&id=0da897c5e716cd201fc31307991cf875c2c90abd -- Sébastien "Seblu" Luttringer https://seblu.net | Twitter: @seblu42 GPG: 0x2072D77A

Florian Pritz

18 Aug 18 Aug

11:29 a.m.

On 17.08.2016 23:30, Sébastien Luttringer wrote:

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Is that really not enough? Enough for what? If you really wanna help me, you just talk to me and offer your help, but you don't send a rocket on the public list.

I'm not sure why you bring this up again here since I was under the impression we cleared up the misunderstanding an hour before on IRC. As discussed on IRC we were under the impression that you monitor IRC traffic, but chose to ignore our requests for reasons unknown. I especially believed that since you just stopped replying during a discussion we had in May and you never picked up the discussion again. I believe I have explained this sufficiently in the discussion that happened in the hour prior to you sending this mail, but if you feel that I should explain the reasoning again, please tell me.

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This kind of threat is inappropriate.

Lack of communication on your side is inappropriate. If there is a good reason not to upgrade a package, put that information somewhere, instead of letting it decay.

I don't see much communication about why packages are not updated. Why are you asking me think others don't do? Why are you targeting me where is this so much package more out-of-date ?

As explained on IRC, I got asked by a user why ceph is not being upgraded and I knew Bartłomiej tried to get in touch with you about ceph before. When I asked him if he has heard anything from you, he denied. Given my own history of unsuccessful communication with you (see my first paragraphs), we looked into other ways of dealing with the problem of neglected packages. We started with ceph since that was the reason for thinking about this again. Nothing of this has ever been intended to be a threat or targeted at you specifically. This is really just a big misunderstanding as I tried to explained on IRC and in the first paragraphs of this mail. Also please understand that we did try to contact you via IRC and since that didn't work we expected you not the care about the package any more (again, see above). Since we don't take action without a mail first Bartłomiej sent this mail. To my surprise you reacted, although not the way I would have expected. Granted, I could have probably sent you an email when you dropped out of the discussion back in May, but I didn't expect you to simply vanish from IRC, while keeping your bouncer online, without telling anyone. Sorry about that. Do you understand what happened here and why? If not, please tell me what exactly you don't understand fully so I can explain it further. Florian

Sébastien Luttringer

22 Aug 22 Aug

10:06 p.m.

On jeu., 2016-08-18 at 11:29 +0200, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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On 17.08.2016 23:30, Sébastien Luttringer wrote:

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Is that really not enough?

Enough for what? If you really wanna help me, you just talk to me and offer your help, but you don't send a rocket on the public list.

I'm not sure why you bring this up again here since I was under the impression we cleared up the misunderstanding an hour before on IRC. Florian,

I understood you both feel ignored on IRC and you decided to post here to catch my attention. We cleared that up. Mailing list is our primary way of communication, that's fine. «This week I'm going to rebuild dependent packages to disable Ceph support and then move Ceph itself to AUR». What would happen If I was in vacation, or for some reason was not able to answer to this mail in a so short deadline? Imagine my reaction when I came back to «work»? I'm an active developer since years now, and I never see a developer treat another else to remove packages he maintains (even with MIA developers). When I asked Bartlomiej if that behavior was inappropriate on IRC, I got a yes. This is why I posted here after the IRC discussion and asked to never do that again. So, if you find removing others packages is an appropriate leverage for communicate, I need more explanation. Regards, -- Sébastien "Seblu" Luttringer https://seblu.net | Twitter: @seblu42 GPG: 0x2072D77A

Bartłomiej Piotrowski

23 Aug 23 Aug

10:07 p.m.

On 2016-08-22 22:06, Sébastien Luttringer wrote:

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I understood you both feel ignored on IRC and you decided to post here to catch my attention. We cleared that up. Mailing list is our primary way of communication, that's fine.

«This week I'm going to rebuild dependent packages to disable Ceph support and then move Ceph itself to AUR».

What would happen If I was in vacation, or for some reason was not able to answer to this mail in a so short deadline? Imagine my reaction when I came back to «work»? I'm an active developer since years now, and I never see a developer treat another else to remove packages he maintains (even with MIA developers).

What would happen if you actually said anything anywhere about why Ceph is out of date for at least 9 months? What if you would remember to put a notice that you're going to be busy or just quit bouncer so it's clear you're not present, instead of leaving it up on a one third of channels you were usually sitting on? What would happen if you were on vacation, but sent a one sentence heads up on arch-dev or arch-dev-public? I, for one, know the answer: nothing would happen. We would just wait. And with regard to reason why you didn't ever see any actions towards effectively unmaintained packages is that we never cared enough. But from what I see here, you like that status quo.

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When I asked Bartlomiej if that behavior was inappropriate on IRC, I got a yes. This is why I posted here after the IRC discussion and asked to never do that again.

So, if you find removing others packages is an appropriate leverage for communicate, I need more explanation.

So is there actually anything we did not discuss here or on IRC already, or you just want to keep it downhill from here? From my perspective, we just waste the time stirring the pot. There are certainly better things to do for both of us. (And besides, I did not say yes.) Bartłomiej

Florian Pritz

28 Sep 28 Sep

3:37 p.m.

On 06.08.2016 10:18, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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[1] https://www.archlinux.org/devel/reports/long-out-of-date/

We still have tons of packages on that list. Please check if the list includes any of your packages and either update or orphan them. You can also check the out of date list in the dashboard which only displays your packages. I will look through the list in 2 weeks and start orphaning packages that do not have a reason for the holdup in the out of date message. If they are not adopted by someone else after that I will drop them to AUR. Florian

Jelle van der Waa

13 Oct 13 Oct

7:43 p.m.

On 09/28/16 at 03:37pm, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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On 06.08.2016 10:18, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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[1] https://www.archlinux.org/devel/reports/long-out-of-date/

We still have tons of packages on that list. Please check if the list includes any of your packages and either update or orphan them. You can also check the out of date list in the dashboard which only displays your packages.

So a bit late reply, one package is probably on the list which is python-html5lib. Which can not be updated since it then breaks calibre. I could make calibre use it's own forked html5lib to resolve the issue. The new html5lib actually contains some code from the calibre fork python-selenium is flagged since it broke Firefox, but no new stable has been announced.. I'll look into updating hgsvn soon.

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I will look through the list in 2 weeks and start orphaning packages that do not have a reason for the holdup in the out of date message. If they are not adopted by someone else after that I will drop them to AUR.

Florian

-- Jelle van der Waa

Florian Pritz

20 Oct 20 Oct

2:25 p.m.

On 28.09.2016 15:37, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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I will look through the list in 2 weeks and start orphaning packages that do not have a reason for the holdup in the out of date message.

So it turns out archweb doesn't allow me to easily orphan packages the way the AUR does so I've created a list. Feel free to adopt the packages and ask the current maintainer to disown them. I've created a list of packages that are required by others and of those that could easily be moved to AUR. I've only looked if the required-by list for each package is empty so if some of these are moved, more might follow. I have also grouped some packages (like llvm) into one line. I've also created a list of packages sorted by maintainers. This one is created automatically, but it doesn't show any required-by data since archweb doesn't list that in the package's JSON. The manually created list might be out of date (I've started last week), the automatic one is current. The automatic list also contains packages that have a good reason for being out of date (sometimes in the OOD message, sometimes not). If you want to adopt any packages, please check the OOD reason first and check if there has been a mail regarding the package in this thread. I'll start slowly dropping packages to AUR in a few weeks. Florian # Manual list ## Still required gdata-sharp gudev-sharp yp-tools refind-efi nasm psmisc geoip scons lib32-libxml2 libconfig ocaml confuse enchant krb5 netcdf netcdf-fortran netcdf-cxx opencl-headers gnu-efi-libs sbcl libc++ powerdns-recursor python-html5lib ttf-dejavu xapian-core f2fs-tools protobuf lib32-nss python-django ncurses libproxy python2-pydot wxgtk texlive-fontsextra lib32-glib2 dkms llvm libc++abi lib32-llvm lib32-libpng openvdb monodevelop java-openjfx jack lib32-gdk-pixbuf2 bash readline ## moveable to AUR avidemux ypserv python-irc soundfont-fluid syslog-ng lib32-liblphobos ovmf libpgf fvwm-crystal hgsvn hfsprogs dvdisaster firefox-firebug supercollider taskjuggler3 pd reaver xenstore gap-packages synthv1 samplv1 drumkv1 scrapy bdf-unifont wiznote python-selenium httpie rosegarden clawsker git-annex vbam extremetuxracer gcompris intel-gpu-tools gufw gdc gnumeric qjackctl # Automatic list no maintainer: extra/any/gdata-sharp extra/any/gudev-sharp multilib/x86_64/lib32-liblphobos community/any/taskjuggler3 core/x86_64/krb5 community/x86_64/xe-guest-utilities community/x86_64/xenstore allan: extra/x86_64/fakechroot bpiotrowski: core/x86_64/ncurses core/x86_64/bash core/x86_64/readline remy: extra/any/texlive-fontsextra foutrelis: community/x86_64/gcompris extra/x86_64/llvm-libs extra/x86_64/llvm extra/x86_64/lldb extra/x86_64/clang-tools-extra extra/x86_64/llvm-ocaml extra/x86_64/clang seblu: extra/any/dkms schiv: extra/x86_64/ardour extra/x86_64/libffado extra/x86_64/serd extra/x86_64/sord extra/x86_64/lilv extra/x86_64/sratom extra/x86_64/lv2 anthraxx: community/x86_64/powerdns-recursor community/any/gufw bluewind: community/x86_64/opencascade ttoepper: community/x86_64/confuse lcarlier: extra/any/opencl-headers multilib/x86_64/lib32-llvm multilib/x86_64/lib32-clang multilib/x86_64/lib32-llvm-libs thomas: extra/any/ovmf dan: extra/any/python2-django extra/any/python-django tpowa: extra/x86_64/gnu-efi-libs extra/x86_64/f2fs-tools extra/any/clawsker jelle: community/any/hgsvn community/any/python2-html5lib community/any/python-html5lib community/x86_64/python-selenium community/x86_64/python2-selenium thestinger: community/x86_64/libc++ community/any/httpie community/x86_64/libc++abi community/x86_64/intel-gpu-tools alucryd: community/x86_64/vbam-gtk community/x86_64/vbam-wx community/x86_64/vbam-sdl daniel: extra/any/monodevelop fyan: community/any/soundfont-fluid multilib/x86_64/lib32-libxml2 community/x86_64/reaver community/any/scrapy extra/x86_64/xapian-core multilib/x86_64/lib32-nss community/x86_64/wiznote community/x86_64/git-annex community/any/python2-pydot multilib/x86_64/lib32-glib2 multilib/x86_64/lib32-libpng multilib/x86_64/lib32-gdk-pixbuf2 community/x86_64/python2-matplotlib community/x86_64/python-matplotlib dicebot: community/x86_64/libgphobos-devel community/x86_64/gdc juergen: extra/x86_64/geoip extra/x86_64/sbcl kkeen: community/any/python-irc community/any/python2-irc muflone: community/x86_64/hfsprogs speps: community/any/firefox-firebug community/x86_64/supercollider community/x86_64/pd community/x86_64/synthv1 community/x86_64/samplv1 community/x86_64/drumkv1 jgc: extra/x86_64/libxml++-docs extra/x86_64/libxml++ extra/any/ttf-dejavu extra/x86_64/libproxy extra/x86_64/gnumeric arojas: community/x86_64/gap community/x86_64/gap-data community/x86_64/gap-doc community/x86_64/gap-packages tomegun: extra/x86_64/ypserv extra/x86_64/yp-tools ronald: extra/x86_64/libpgf extra/x86_64/netcdf-fortran extra/x86_64/netcdf-cxx extra/x86_64/netcdf extra/any/bdf-unifont community/x86_64/extremetuxracer extra/x86_64/efl-docs extra/x86_64/efl svenstaro: community/x86_64/openvdb guillaume: extra/x86_64/java-openjfx-src extra/x86_64/java-openjfx extra/x86_64/java-openjfx-doc eric: extra/x86_64/avidemux-cli extra/x86_64/avidemux-qt extra/x86_64/avidemux-gtk extra/x86_64/syslog-ng extra/any/fvwm-crystal community/x86_64/dvdisaster extra/x86_64/nasm core/x86_64/psmisc extra/x86_64/wxgtk angvp: extra/any/python2-django extra/any/python-django lfleischer: extra/x86_64/protobuf extra/x86_64/python2-protobuf

Christian Hesse

2:42 p.m.

Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public on Thu, 2016/10/20 14:25:

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f2fs-tools

Looks like f2fs-tools has a hard dependency on libselinux now... So we have to move libselinux from AUR to [extra] if we want to keep f2fs support. Tobias, are you going to handle this? Do you want me to do this? Any reason not to do this? -- main(a){char*c=/* Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH" "CX:;",b;for(a/* Best regards my address: */=0;b=c[a++];) putchar(b-1/(/* Chris cc -ox -xc - && ./x */b/42*2-3)*42);}

Christian Hesse

22 Oct 22 Oct

10:18 p.m.

Christian Hesse on Thu, 2016/10/20 14:42:

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Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public on Thu, 2016/10/20 14:25:

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f2fs-tools

Looks like f2fs-tools has a hard dependency on libselinux now... So we have to move libselinux from AUR to [extra] if we want to keep f2fs support.

I've sent a patch upstream that allows to build without selinux support. Let's wait for the result before rushing a decision. -- main(a){char*c=/* Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH" "CX:;",b;for(a/* Best regards my address: */=0;b=c[a++];) putchar(b-1/(/* Chris cc -ox -xc - && ./x */b/42*2-3)*42);}

Allan McRae

20 Oct 20 Oct

3:03 p.m.

On 20/10/16 22:25, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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allan: extra/x86_64/fakechroot

Updating this breaks the pacman testsuite (due to a fakechroot bug...).

Sven-Hendrik Haase

3:46 p.m.

openvdb is updated as part of the boost rebuild. On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Allan McRae wrote:

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On 20/10/16 22:25, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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allan: extra/x86_64/fakechroot

Updating this breaks the pacman testsuite (due to a fakechroot bug...).

Guillaume Alaux

3:49 p.m.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:

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openvdb is updated as part of the boost rebuild.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Allan McRae wrote:

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On 20/10/16 22:25, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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allan: extra/x86_64/fakechroot

Updating this breaks the pacman testsuite (due to a fakechroot bug...).

I will take care of `openjfx` (hopefully soon) so please do not remove it.

Maxime Gauduin

4:02 p.m.

October 20 2016 3:49 PM, "Guillaume Alaux" wrote:

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On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:

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openvdb is updated as part of the boost rebuild.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Allan McRae wrote:

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On 20/10/16 22:25, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

allan: extra/x86_64/fakechroot

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Updating this breaks the pacman testsuite (due to a fakechroot bug...).

I will take care of `openjfx` (hopefully soon) so please do not remove it.

I've been unable to build vbam since the last sfml update (though it's unrelated to sfml), and GTK 3.22 made things even worse. I've reached upstream in hope they can fix it quickly. If it takes too long, I'll demote it to AUR myself, we already have mgba which is cleaner, more accurate and faster anyway. Also, unless someone wants to take over taskjuggler3, I'll demote it very soon. Cheers, -- Maxime

jan＠jgc.homeip.net

3:33 p.m.

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jgc: extra/x86_64/libxml++-docs extra/x86_64/libxml++ extra/any/ttf-dejavu extra/x86_64/libproxy extra/x86_64/gnumeric

Please don't kill these. They still get active maintenance but I haven't gotten into these yet. libxml++ is not out of date, the "new version" is a new ABI/API which is not compatible with any package that uses libxml++ at the moment. I can flag it as not out of date, but someone will flag it again tomorrow. gnumeric is one version behind, I have a PKGBUILD ready (using the new gnome git stuff), but it doesn't build because gnumeric depends on deprecated features of gnome-common that have been removed over a year ago. libproxy and ttf-dejavu are also one version behind, they will get updated soon.

Levente Polyak

5:31 p.m.

On 10/20/2016 02:25 PM, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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I'll start slowly dropping packages to AUR in a few weeks.

Well I'm not 100% sure but do you mean the already orphan packages or all not required packages? Most likely there is lot of stuff they will be dropper later on... but I think they should first be orphaned before we start doing that. Purely speaking about the "movable to AUR" (not the required) packages, but I would instantly pick up: avidemux, reaver, httpie, python-irc if they would be orphan. maybe some of the useful stuff from that list would be picked up by others too?

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anthraxx: community/x86_64/powerdns-recursor community/any/gufw

Ups, I forgot powerdns-recursor in the [testing] repository, the package is in that repo for quite a while. will move when arriving at home. gufw requires more work and new dependencies + testing. It was an orphan package and I picked that up like aprox. 1.5 weeks ago to mark that i start working on that topic. Will accelerate and to that asap. cheers, Levente

Florian Pritz

7:42 p.m.

On 20.10.2016 17:31, Levente Polyak wrote:

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On 10/20/2016 02:25 PM, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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I'll start slowly dropping packages to AUR in a few weeks.

Well I'm not 100% sure but do you mean the already orphan packages or all not required packages?

I mean all non-required packages. I would have orphaned them already, but archweb doesn't allow me to do that.

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Purely speaking about the "movable to AUR" (not the required) packages, but I would instantly pick up: avidemux, reaver, httpie, python-irc if they would be orphan.

Talk to their maintainers and adopt them if they don't want to maintain them any more. Florian

Bartłomiej Piotrowski

5:37 p.m.

On 2016-10-20 14:25, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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bpiotrowski: core/x86_64/ncurses core/x86_64/bash core/x86_64/readline

This trio requires some love that's currently reserved for fixing Boost in staging (if I ever get more free time to debug it). Bartłomiej

Daniel Isenmann

21 Oct 21 Oct

7:41 a.m.

2016-10-20 14:25 GMT+02:00 Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public < arch-dev-public@archlinux.org>:

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On 28.09.2016 15:37, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

daniel: extra/any/monodevelop

I'm on it. There is some compiing issues right now, that's the reason for outdated. So don't move or orphan it, I will take care of this. Cheers Daniel

Daniel Isenmann

7:47 a.m.

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## Still required gdata-sharp gudev-sharp

Will be removed from the repo soon, because I decided to remove banshee from the repo (reason here: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2016-October/028361.ht... ) As I stated in the other mail, I won't move it to the AUR.

Felix Yan

11:42 a.m.

On 10/20/2016 08:25 PM, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:

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fyan: community/any/soundfont-fluid multilib/x86_64/lib32-libxml2 community/x86_64/reaver community/any/scrapy extra/x86_64/xapian-core multilib/x86_64/lib32-nss community/x86_64/wiznote community/x86_64/git-annex community/any/python2-pydot multilib/x86_64/lib32-glib2 multilib/x86_64/lib32-libpng multilib/x86_64/lib32-gdk-pixbuf2 community/x86_64/python2-matplotlib community/x86_64/python-matplotlib

Except for some lib32-foo (still working on), I have either bumped or re-flagged with a reason. Sorry for the delay. -- Regards, Felix Yan

Thorsten Töpper

23 Oct 23 Oct

10:41 p.m.

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ttoepper: community/x86_64/confuse

Disowned the package.

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Allan McRae
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Christian Hesse
Daniel Isenmann
Felix Yan
Florian Pritz
Gaetan Bisson
Guillaume Alaux
jan＠jgc.homeip.net
Jelle van der Waa
Jerome Leclanche
Levente Polyak
Maxime Gauduin
Ray Rashif
Sven-Hendrik Haase
Sébastien Luttringer
Thorsten Töpper