[arch-dev-public] The future of heimdal and nfs-utils
Hi guys, The reason for not updating nfs-utils in [core] is the fact that, nfs-utils and heimdal patches don't work together anymore. I don't use this feature at all. Other distributions don't use heimdal as kerberos implementation, so no luck to find any help there. I asked diego from gentoo who did some work on gentoo and nfs stuff, but he is busy since ages, but agrees that the whole thing is in a real bad state. What to do? Shall we drop the heimdal implementation on nfs? Go away from heimdal and use an other kerberos implementation? As I said before I don't use this features at all. Thanks for your help. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa@archlinux.org
On 19/03/11 22:49, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
Hi guys, The reason for not updating nfs-utils in [core] is the fact that, nfs-utils and heimdal patches don't work together anymore. I don't use this feature at all. Other distributions don't use heimdal as kerberos implementation, so no luck to find any help there. I asked diego from gentoo who did some work on gentoo and nfs stuff, but he is busy since ages, but agrees that the whole thing is in a real bad state.
What to do? Shall we drop the heimdal implementation on nfs? Go away from heimdal and use an other kerberos implementation? As I said before I don't use this features at all.
Thanks for your help.
Just as an FYI here, I used to maintain heimdal just because no-one else was. Also, I never updated to heimdal-1.4 as it was a bit of a broken release and I did not want to pull so many patches from their git. Heimdal 1.5pre1 has been tagged, so I guess the 1.5 release will not be too far away. Anyway, I really do not use heimdal so it would be good if someone else wants to take over its maintenance (it is already orphaned...) or even switch it completely for MIT kerberos (which probably a good idea given that is what many other distros use). Allan
Le 19 mars 2011 09:17:42, Allan McRae a écrit :
On 19/03/11 22:49, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
Hi guys, The reason for not updating nfs-utils in [core] is the fact that, nfs-utils and heimdal patches don't work together anymore. I don't use this feature at all. Other distributions don't use heimdal as kerberos implementation, so no luck to find any help there. I asked diego from gentoo who did some work on gentoo and nfs stuff, but he is busy since ages, but agrees that the whole thing is in a real bad state.
What to do? Shall we drop the heimdal implementation on nfs? Go away from heimdal and use an other kerberos implementation? As I said before I don't use this features at all.
Thanks for your help.
Just as an FYI here, I used to maintain heimdal just because no-one else was. Also, I never updated to heimdal-1.4 as it was a bit of a broken release and I did not want to pull so many patches from their git. Heimdal 1.5pre1 has been tagged, so I guess the 1.5 release will not be too far away.
Anyway, I really do not use heimdal so it would be good if someone else wants to take over its maintenance (it is already orphaned...) or even switch it completely for MIT kerberos (which probably a good idea given that is what many other distros use).
Allan
+1 to replace heimdal by MIT kerberos. I could take care of the krb5 package unless someone else that use it more than me want to do it. Stéphane
On 23/03/11 03:03, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote:
Le 19 mars 2011 09:17:42, Allan McRae a écrit :
On 19/03/11 22:49, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
Hi guys, The reason for not updating nfs-utils in [core] is the fact that, nfs-utils and heimdal patches don't work together anymore. I don't use this feature at all. Other distributions don't use heimdal as kerberos implementation, so no luck to find any help there. I asked diego from gentoo who did some work on gentoo and nfs stuff, but he is busy since ages, but agrees that the whole thing is in a real bad state.
What to do? Shall we drop the heimdal implementation on nfs? Go away from heimdal and use an other kerberos implementation? As I said before I don't use this features at all.
Thanks for your help.
Just as an FYI here, I used to maintain heimdal just because no-one else was. Also, I never updated to heimdal-1.4 as it was a bit of a broken release and I did not want to pull so many patches from their git. Heimdal 1.5pre1 has been tagged, so I guess the 1.5 release will not be too far away.
Anyway, I really do not use heimdal so it would be good if someone else wants to take over its maintenance (it is already orphaned...) or even switch it completely for MIT kerberos (which probably a good idea given that is what many other distros use).
Allan
+1 to replace heimdal by MIT kerberos. I could take care of the krb5 package unless someone else that use it more than me want to do it.
Switching to MIT kerberos sounds even better when someone is going to maintain it! @Tobias: would that solve your issues? @All: is there anyone who would object to or has concerns about such a move? I guess it would be a reasonable size rebuild so it would be best to tackle this once [staging] is quite clear and GNOME 3 is done. Allan
Am Mittwoch 23 März 2011 schrieb Allan McRae:
On 23/03/11 03:03, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote:
Le 19 mars 2011 09:17:42, Allan McRae a écrit :
On 19/03/11 22:49, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
Hi guys, The reason for not updating nfs-utils in [core] is the fact that, nfs-utils and heimdal patches don't work together anymore. I don't use this feature at all. Other distributions don't use heimdal as kerberos implementation, so no luck to find any help there. I asked diego from gentoo who did some work on gentoo and nfs stuff, but he is busy since ages, but agrees that the whole thing is in a real bad state.
What to do? Shall we drop the heimdal implementation on nfs? Go away from heimdal and use an other kerberos implementation? As I said before I don't use this features at all.
Thanks for your help.
Just as an FYI here, I used to maintain heimdal just because no-one else was. Also, I never updated to heimdal-1.4 as it was a bit of a broken release and I did not want to pull so many patches from their git. Heimdal 1.5pre1 has been tagged, so I guess the 1.5 release will not be too far away.
Anyway, I really do not use heimdal so it would be good if someone else wants to take over its maintenance (it is already orphaned...) or even switch it completely for MIT kerberos (which probably a good idea given that is what many other distros use).
Allan
+1 to replace heimdal by MIT kerberos. I could take care of the krb5 package unless someone else that use it more than me want to do it.
Switching to MIT kerberos sounds even better when someone is going to maintain it!
@Tobias: would that solve your issues?
@All: is there anyone who would object to or has concerns about such a move? I guess it would be a reasonable size rebuild so it would be best to tackle this once [staging] is quite clear and GNOME 3 is done.
Allan I think that will solve at least nfs-utils issue. It's always better to use a solution that use more distros, that makes it easier to find fixes.
greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa@archlinux.org
Le 23 mars 2011 06:44:04, Tobias Powalowski a écrit :
Am Mittwoch 23 März 2011 schrieb Allan McRae:
On 23/03/11 03:03, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote:
Le 19 mars 2011 09:17:42, Allan McRae a écrit :
On 19/03/11 22:49, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
Hi guys, The reason for not updating nfs-utils in [core] is the fact that, nfs-utils and heimdal patches don't work together anymore. I don't use this feature at all. Other distributions don't use heimdal as kerberos implementation, so no luck to find any help there. I asked diego from gentoo who did some work on gentoo and nfs stuff, but he is busy since ages, but agrees that the whole thing is in a real bad state.
What to do? Shall we drop the heimdal implementation on nfs? Go away from heimdal and use an other kerberos implementation? As I said before I don't use this features at all.
Thanks for your help.
Just as an FYI here, I used to maintain heimdal just because no-one else was. Also, I never updated to heimdal-1.4 as it was a bit of a broken release and I did not want to pull so many patches from their git. Heimdal 1.5pre1 has been tagged, so I guess the 1.5 release will not be too far away.
Anyway, I really do not use heimdal so it would be good if someone else wants to take over its maintenance (it is already orphaned...) or even switch it completely for MIT kerberos (which probably a good idea given that is what many other distros use).
Allan
+1 to replace heimdal by MIT kerberos. I could take care of the krb5 package unless someone else that use it more than me want to do it.
Switching to MIT kerberos sounds even better when someone is going to maintain it!
@Tobias: would that solve your issues?
@All: is there anyone who would object to or has concerns about such a move? I guess it would be a reasonable size rebuild so it would be best to tackle this once [staging] is quite clear and GNOME 3 is done.
Allan
I think that will solve at least nfs-utils issue. It's always better to use a solution that use more distros, that makes it easier to find fixes.
greetings tpowa
It seems that MIT Kerberos depends on keyutils (linux key management utilities) : http://people.redhat.com/~dhowells/keyutils/ Any objection if I add this pkg to [core] ? Stéphane
Am Sonntag 27 März 2011 schrieb Stéphane Gaudreault:
Le 23 mars 2011 06:44:04, Tobias Powalowski a écrit :
Am Mittwoch 23 März 2011 schrieb Allan McRae:
On 23/03/11 03:03, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote:
Le 19 mars 2011 09:17:42, Allan McRae a écrit :
On 19/03/11 22:49, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
Hi guys, The reason for not updating nfs-utils in [core] is the fact that, nfs-utils and heimdal patches don't work together anymore. I don't use this feature at all. Other distributions don't use heimdal as kerberos implementation, so no luck to find any help there. I asked diego from gentoo who did some work on gentoo and nfs stuff, but he is busy since ages, but agrees that the whole thing is in a real bad state.
What to do? Shall we drop the heimdal implementation on nfs? Go away from heimdal and use an other kerberos implementation? As I said before I don't use this features at all.
Thanks for your help.
Just as an FYI here, I used to maintain heimdal just because no-one else was. Also, I never updated to heimdal-1.4 as it was a bit of a broken release and I did not want to pull so many patches from their git. Heimdal 1.5pre1 has been tagged, so I guess the 1.5 release will not be too far away.
Anyway, I really do not use heimdal so it would be good if someone else wants to take over its maintenance (it is already orphaned...) or even switch it completely for MIT kerberos (which probably a good idea given that is what many other distros use).
Allan
+1 to replace heimdal by MIT kerberos. I could take care of the krb5 package unless someone else that use it more than me want to do it.
Switching to MIT kerberos sounds even better when someone is going to maintain it!
@Tobias: would that solve your issues?
@All: is there anyone who would object to or has concerns about such a move? I guess it would be a reasonable size rebuild so it would be best to tackle this once [staging] is quite clear and GNOME 3 is done.
Allan
I think that will solve at least nfs-utils issue. It's always better to use a solution that use more distros, that makes it easier to find fixes.
greetings tpowa
It seems that MIT Kerberos depends on keyutils (linux key management utilities) : http://people.redhat.com/~dhowells/keyutils/
Any objection if I add this pkg to [core] ?
Stéphane no objections , from my side. I just added it yesterday for cifs-utils to extra :)
greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa@archlinux.org
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Allan McRae
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Tobias Powalowski