[arch-dev-public] request: xz-utils into core
Am Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:31:55 -0600 schrieb "Dan McGee" <dpmcgee@gmail.com>:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
I'd like to keep unneeded packages out of core. I see no need to move lzma into core. We only support tar.gz for our repos. Whoever wants to use a different format can rebuild libarchive easily.
I also wonder if our new tar package now supports lzma and lzop compression (no tests so far). Both packages were not present when building the tar package in he chroot. But even when it's now possible to use these formats at runtime they should stay in extra until we may use them for our repos.
I don't want to go too back and forth on this on the signoff thread so I'll move it here.
I was thinking much more in the context of archives in general rather than just pacman using libarchive. libarchive ships with bsdtar, which I have found to be quicker than GNU tar at extracting (so I use it nearly exclusively). It would be a shame to tell people "we don't support .tar.lzma for anything"- that seems rather arbitrary, doesn't it?
I too think [core] should stay as slim as possible, but when that requires we compile our packages with a less than ideal set of features, I want to at least give it some thought.
-Dan
I've found more and more gnu tools being shipped in the new xz file format. So may I request now to move lzma-utils' successor http://tukaani.org/xz/ to be put into testing for some time and later to core? (lzma-utils is François' pkg right now) -Andy
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
Am Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:31:55 -0600 schrieb "Dan McGee" <dpmcgee@gmail.com>:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
I'd like to keep unneeded packages out of core. I see no need to move lzma into core. We only support tar.gz for our repos. Whoever wants to use a different format can rebuild libarchive easily.
I also wonder if our new tar package now supports lzma and lzop compression (no tests so far). Both packages were not present when building the tar package in he chroot. But even when it's now possible to use these formats at runtime they should stay in extra until we may use them for our repos.
I don't want to go too back and forth on this on the signoff thread so I'll move it here.
I was thinking much more in the context of archives in general rather than just pacman using libarchive. libarchive ships with bsdtar, which I have found to be quicker than GNU tar at extracting (so I use it nearly exclusively). It would be a shame to tell people "we don't support .tar.lzma for anything"- that seems rather arbitrary, doesn't it?
I too think [core] should stay as slim as possible, but when that requires we compile our packages with a less than ideal set of features, I want to at least give it some thought.
-Dan
I've found more and more gnu tools being shipped in the new xz file format. So may I request now to move lzma-utils' successor http://tukaani.org/xz/ to be put into testing for some time and later to core?
Does xz-utils still support all lzma archives? A brief reading claims it is a new format, but I don't know about backwards compat.
Am Sonntag 01 März 2009 10:20:57 schrieb Andreas Radke:
I've found more and more gnu tools being shipped in the new xz file format. So may I request now to move lzma-utils' successor http://tukaani.org/xz/ to be put into testing for some time and later to core?
I would like to bump this thread. KDE 4.3 will also make use of xz. And as we already discussed we'll get libarchive support which might be usefull. If noone else want's to do it I would maintain this package. -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre@jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de
Pierre Schmitz wrote:
Am Sonntag 01 März 2009 10:20:57 schrieb Andreas Radke:
I've found more and more gnu tools being shipped in the new xz file format. So may I request now to move lzma-utils' successor http://tukaani.org/xz/ to be put into testing for some time and later to core?
I would like to bump this thread. KDE 4.3 will also make use of xz. And as we already discussed we'll get libarchive support which might be usefull.
If noone else want's to do it I would maintain this package.
It seems no-one has strong opinions on this so go ahead and put it in [testing]. Allan
Am Sonntag 31 Mai 2009 12:22:48 schrieb Allan McRae:
It seems no-one has strong opinions on this so go ahead and put it in [testing].
OK then; I'll pt a package into testing and rebuild libarchive if needed. -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre@jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de
Am Sonntag 31 Mai 2009 schrieb Pierre Schmitz:
Am Sonntag 31 Mai 2009 12:22:48 schrieb Allan McRae:
It seems no-one has strong opinions on this so go ahead and put it in [testing].
OK then; I'll pt a package into testing and rebuild libarchive if needed. cool rebuilt fsarchiver with lzma support :) greetings tpowa
-- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa@archlinux.org
Does xz-utils still support all lzma archives? A brief reading claims it is a new format, but I don't know about backwards compat.
I think I overlooked this question, but since this thread has been reactivated, I can happily answer now: It *is* backward compatible. That is, xz-utils can uncompress files in the old lzma format, so it can be considered a replacement of lzma-utils. (The new xz format has a different header structure, and uses a different container.) When xz-utils hits extra, I will remove lzma-utils. I believe xz-utils also provides unlzma as a symlink to unxz. F
Allan McRae a écrit :
Pierre Schmitz wrote:
Am Sonntag 01 März 2009 10:20:57 schrieb Andreas Radke:
I've found more and more gnu tools being shipped in the new xz file format. So may I request now to move lzma-utils' successor http://tukaani.org/xz/ to be put into testing for some time and later to core?
I would like to bump this thread. KDE 4.3 will also make use of xz. And as we already discussed we'll get libarchive support which might be usefull.
If noone else want's to do it I would maintain this package.
It seems no-one has strong opinions on this so go ahead and put it in [testing].
Allan
Pierre: please maintain it if you want to. I will remove lzma-utils from extra as soon as xz-utils moves to core. I will also remove xz-utils from AUR. François
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Aaron Griffin
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Allan McRae
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Andreas Radke
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Firmicus
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Pierre Schmitz
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Tobias Powalowski