On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Aaron Griffin wrote:

On 10/2/07, Andreas Radke wrote:

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Am Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:17:17 -0500 schrieb "Aaron Griffin" :

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== Pending Tasks, Short Term ==

* New Round of Package Cleanup

Let's try and get this "complete" this week. I'd like to get at least 2 or 3 of us together with Eric to go through these packages and start moving them to community or unsupported.

We have an internal list for this here: https://www.archlinux.org/wiki/Repo%20Cleanup/

Please add candidates if you find them.

Eric, when is a good time for you?

This upcoming week-end is the Canadian Thanksgiving so I won't be able to do any Arch related stuff. Otherwise, any evening this week will be OK. Catch me on IRC. Regarding the fate of the package to be removed from extra, they should only be moved to community repo if they are a dependency (or makedepends) of a package in community. If not, they should simply be moved to unsupported or deleted completely, whichever is best suited. It would be a bad idea to moved them in community if none of actual TU is interested in them. Maybe that's what you had in mind, but I just want to make this point clear.

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So. To summarize the email above:

After the core repo move, we have a lot of orphan packages, and important ones.

So, let's readopt them.

I am giving everyone until tomorrow night to adopt what packages you _want_ - first come first serve.

After that, I will go through all orphans, and determine if they are important.

Then, I will post a list of what we need to maintain to this ML, and let people adopt them.

On Friday, if they are not adopted, I will assign them as I see fit.

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Tuesday 02 October 2007, Andreas Radke wrote: | I just don't want to fall back into the time when Jan, Tobias and | me were doing the majority of packaging almost alone again. And | now we have to take about two architectures. Let's spread it over | all our shoulders. i have around 300 pkgs in extra, but most of them are not too complex to maintain. i was busy with other things, but i never stopped packaging! so you were never alone. we are a (in the meantime quite big) team of devs, so if one is busy for a year, others can ballance out. of course this does not mean that 3 need to do 90% of the work :) besides: why did you not tell from time to time? pass a line like: "today name1, name2 and me were updating 340 packages - it was lots of fun, but it would be cool that others join in" such messages from time to time would let others know what you do. and would also lead to more communication, and also more digesting things... not outbreaks of the kind: i'm doing everything! ;) i understand that officially, it looks quite bad having 900 pkgs orphaned... but that's just a temporary effect... they will be picked up by time (right guys? - do pick them up again! understand? being nasty before christmas is bad - the hogfather is watching *g*). the cleanup is easier, when pkgs are sorted and assigned, that i agree... but it is no 1st priority matter. the important thing is not to forget it! :) if anybody has the itch to really cleanup things in a hurry, please do not trow out things without at least consulting the person who is mentioned as Maintainer in the PKGBUILD... do make a list, but leave it for revision for at least one week, so that others may crosscheck it. moving things out of the repo and back in is unnecessary and in addition: it means also loosing the history! keep bothering us about the issue, but do not over-hurry with it, - D -- .·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´ ° ° ° ° ° ° ><((((º> ° ° ° ° ° <º)))>< <º)))><

On 10/2/07, Travis Willard wrote:

The reason I haven't adopted these is because I'm thinking if there's somebody with more experience packaging these, it'd be better off in their hands.

I think a lot of us are thinking this way, I know I am. And this might be some of the problem.

Travis Willard wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:10:59 -0500 "Aaron Griffin" wrote:

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On 10/2/07, Travis Willard wrote:

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The reason I haven't adopted these is because I'm thinking if there's somebody with more experience packaging these, it'd be better off in their hands. I think a lot of us are thinking this way, I know I am. And this might be some of the problem.

Yeah, that occurred to me to, which is why I gave the two-days notice. If they're still free, I'll grab them, and any of their deps that are orphaned too.

I've now done the same exercise with my stuff, and adopted most of my orphaned deps - would have been more, but Travis got there first. :) If I've picked anything that someone feels is "theirs", please let me know - I've no problem with giving up anything. A lot of them were dorphell's anyway, so I don't think that will be a problem. I've balked at a couple - libsasl and openssl, to be precise - but if nobody else wants them, I'll take them. T.