On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 21:21 +1000, James Rayner wrote:

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Jan de Groot wrote:

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At this moment we have a gnome-unstable repository, containing GNOME 2.28.0. This repository should be used on top of testing, though I'm working on it to make it compatible with just extra.

Todo: - Compile packages against extra depends, not testing - Update some packages, make both architectures identical - Drop PolicyKit from hal, use at_console rules instead - Port remaining policykit-enabled packages to polkit - Drop PolicyKit completely, switch to polkit - Rebuild remaining packages for gmime 2.4 - Look for issues with poppler 0.12, possible rebuilds ahead

There'll definitely be rebuilds for poppler. my TeXLive install pdf export broke. I havn't had a chance to file a bug or even investigate which package yet - sorry, very busy week.

James

Pdftex needs a patch to work with 0.12, a user mailed me with patches.

Am Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009 10:29:58 schrieb Jan de Groot:

- KDE doesn't support polkit in the current shape. Fedora compiles KDE without policykit to get rid of PolicyKit 0.9x. I think we should do the same

I don't think so; afaik policykit is nonoptional and will break stuff. So why can't we keep policykit? -- Pierre Schmitz, http://users.archlinux.de/~pierre

On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 10:57 +0200, Pierre Schmitz wrote:

Am Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009 10:38:53 schrieb Pierre Schmitz:

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nonoptional

To clrafiy this: it might be possible to build KDE without policykit with loss of functionality and we sould need to drop some packages like shaman and k3b.

This is the fedora discussion: http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-development/358521-policykit-0-9-going-a... Their KDE project meeting about it: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-09-01 Another related bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519674 It appears the only authorization agent at this moment is the one provided by polkit-gnome, so the "OnlyShowIn" should not be limited to GNOME only as stated by the bugreport.

On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 10:38 +0200, Pierre Schmitz wrote:

Am Dienstag 06 Oktober 2009 10:29:58 schrieb Jan de Groot:

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- KDE doesn't support polkit in the current shape. Fedora compiles KDE without policykit to get rid of PolicyKit 0.9x. I think we should do the same

I don't think so; afaik policykit is nonoptional and will break stuff. So why can't we keep policykit?

The reason why KDE depends on policykit is because it provides an authorization agent and settings manager for it. I don't know if KDE uses policykit more than that, but at least it's optional. As for policykit being required: K3B uses it for k3bsetup. Why I don't like having two versions of policykit: it's confusing. I remember people shouting about policykit being shit because they don't understand it, how about having two versions of policykit, with two configurations? Fedora 12 ships without the old policykit, and they ship KDE 4.3 also, so it's possible to build without policykit 0.9. The only difference between them and us is that we ship an early alpha version of K3B that requires it, while they ship the stable version.