On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:07:28 +0200 Ionut Biru wrote:

On 01/24/2010 09:55 AM, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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Hmmm. LTS install ISOs is an interesting idea, but not sure how people feel about that. I mean, the kernel for the install ISO is just the running kernel. You can still install the LTS kernel from a non-LTS ISO.

Does anyone have a strong opinion on this?

i don't see any reason to have that.

what's the purpose of the LTS kernel again? it's basically to make kernel update cycles of your system longer, right? so instead of getting a new major version every 3 months, you jump from LTS to LTS. I can see why some people want that on their installed box [and hence the possibility to install it using any installation medium]. our goal with the installation media (we're failing at that goal right now), is to have a set of media for each new kernel release. why? optimal hardware support. so the question is simple: do LTS kernels get driver updates like the normal kernels do? but even if they do, they probably run behind on filesystems support and such. so i do not see any advantages for installation media running an LTS kernel. Dieter

Am Sonntag 24 Januar 2010 schrieb Tobias Powalowski:

Am Sonntag 24 Januar 2010 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck:

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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:07:28 +0200

Ionut Biru wrote:

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On 01/24/2010 09:55 AM, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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Hmmm. LTS install ISOs is an interesting idea, but not sure how people feel about that. I mean, the kernel for the install ISO is just the running kernel. You can still install the LTS kernel from a non-LTS ISO.

Does anyone have a strong opinion on this?

i don't see any reason to have that.

what's the purpose of the LTS kernel again? it's basically to make kernel update cycles of your system longer, right? so instead of getting a new major version every 3 months, you jump from LTS to LTS.

I can see why some people want that on their installed box [and hence the possibility to install it using any installation medium].

our goal with the installation media (we're failing at that goal right now), is to have a set of media for each new kernel release. why? optimal hardware support. so the question is simple: do LTS kernels get driver updates like the normal kernels do? but even if they do, they probably run behind on filesystems support and such.

so i do not see any advantages for installation media running an LTS kernel.

Dieter

The lts is generally optimized for server usage, only bugfixes go into the lts line, no new drivers will be supported. When we move to .32 i plan also to provide binary modules for it.

Perhaps it's interesting for some people, i recently added support for lts installation and booting in archboot scripts, that was the reason for asking if normal installation media wants also support this option.

greetings tpowa Ok seems no real interest here, so aufs patch will not be needed in .32 lts.

-- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa@archlinux.org