[arch-dev-public] delete apmd from extra?
Does anyone even use apm anymore? And if they do, shouldn't we discourage it? Any issues with removing this and other related apm packages (if any) ?
2008/10/16, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
Does anyone even use apm anymore? And if they do, shouldn't we discourage it?
Any issues with removing this and other related apm packages (if any) ?
I think you can delete it. -- Arch Linux Developer (voidnull) AUR & Pacman Italian Translations Microdia Developer http://www.archlinux.it
On Oct 16, 2008 at 01:41 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone even use apm anymore? And if they do, shouldn't we discourage it?
I'm sure someone in the wild is using it, but yes we should discourage it =)
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Thayer Williams <thayer@archlinux.org> wrote:
On Oct 16, 2008 at 01:41 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone even use apm anymore? And if they do, shouldn't we discourage it?
I'm sure someone in the wild is using it, but yes we should discourage it =)
well if APM is all their hardware supports...
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:35 PM, James Rayner <iphitus@iphitus.org> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Thayer Williams <thayer@archlinux.org> wrote:
On Oct 16, 2008 at 01:41 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone even use apm anymore? And if they do, shouldn't we discourage it?
I'm sure someone in the wild is using it, but yes we should discourage it =)
well if APM is all their hardware supports...
I don't think any hardware made after 2000 supports only APM...
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:35 PM, James Rayner <iphitus@iphitus.org> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Thayer Williams <thayer@archlinux.org> wrote:
On Oct 16, 2008 at 01:41 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone even use apm anymore? And if they do, shouldn't we discourage it?
I'm sure someone in the wild is using it, but yes we should discourage it =)
well if APM is all their hardware supports...
I don't think any hardware made after 2000 supports only APM...
How many i686 machines would be only APM? I feel like ACPI was pre-Pentium-Pro, but maybe I'm mistaken. Either way, moving this to community or unsupported isn't that big of a loss here. Its not like we have been testing it. -Dan
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:35 PM, James Rayner <iphitus@iphitus.org> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Thayer Williams <thayer@archlinux.org> wrote:
On Oct 16, 2008 at 01:41 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone even use apm anymore? And if they do, shouldn't we discourage it?
I'm sure someone in the wild is using it, but yes we should discourage it =)
well if APM is all their hardware supports...
I don't think any hardware made after 2000 supports only APM...
I'm just playing devils advocate. My old PII had APM suspend, no ACPI support. It was a desktop though, so I never needed the suspend functionality and I doubt there's many PII laptops out there. So yeah, I'm all for removing it.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:23 AM, James Rayner <iphitus@iphitus.org> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:35 PM, James Rayner <iphitus@iphitus.org> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Thayer Williams <thayer@archlinux.org> wrote:
On Oct 16, 2008 at 01:41 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone even use apm anymore? And if they do, shouldn't we discourage it?
I'm sure someone in the wild is using it, but yes we should discourage it =)
well if APM is all their hardware supports...
I don't think any hardware made after 2000 supports only APM...
I'm just playing devils advocate. My old PII had APM suspend, no ACPI support. It was a desktop though, so I never needed the suspend functionality and I doubt there's many PII laptops out there.
So yeah, I'm all for removing it.
LOL, did they even make P2 laptops? I imagine they'd be huge and heavy by today's standards
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 09:55 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
LOL, did they even make P2 laptops? I imagine they'd be huge and heavy by today's standards
Hey, don't shit on P2 laptops! I became maintainer while I was using a P2 366 as laptop! And no, it wasn't heavy, it was quite lightweight with its 800x600 screen and 3-4 hours of battery life. BTW: I could compile packages and watch xvid rips at the same time without framedrops on it without having an XV-accelerated videochip.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 09:55 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
LOL, did they even make P2 laptops? I imagine they'd be huge and heavy by today's standards
Hey, don't shit on P2 laptops! I became maintainer while I was using a P2 366 as laptop! And no, it wasn't heavy, it was quite lightweight with its 800x600 screen and 3-4 hours of battery life.
BTW: I could compile packages and watch xvid rips at the same time without framedrops on it without having an XV-accelerated videochip.
The first laptop I ever bought was a P4 :)
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 09:55 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
LOL, did they even make P2 laptops? I imagine they'd be huge and heavy by today's standards
Hey, don't shit on P2 laptops! I became maintainer while I was using a P2 366 as laptop! And no, it wasn't heavy, it was quite lightweight with its 800x600 screen and 3-4 hours of battery life.
BTW: I could compile packages and watch xvid rips at the same time without framedrops on it without having an XV-accelerated videochip.
The first laptop I ever bought was a P4 :)
That really shows your age...or lack of =) Granted, my first (and only) notebook is a dual core *ahem*, but hey my first workstation was an Amiga 1000. Ah, those were the days! I remember carrying buckets of floppy games uphill both ways. Barbarians...Pirates...Ports of Call *sob*
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Thayer Williams <thayer@archlinux.org> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 09:55 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
LOL, did they even make P2 laptops? I imagine they'd be huge and heavy by today's standards
Hey, don't shit on P2 laptops! I became maintainer while I was using a P2 366 as laptop! And no, it wasn't heavy, it was quite lightweight with its 800x600 screen and 3-4 hours of battery life.
BTW: I could compile packages and watch xvid rips at the same time without framedrops on it without having an XV-accelerated videochip.
The first laptop I ever bought was a P4 :)
That really shows your age...or lack of =)
Granted, my first (and only) notebook is a dual core *ahem*, but hey my first workstation was an Amiga 1000. Ah, those were the days! I remember carrying buckets of floppy games uphill both ways. Barbarians...Pirates...Ports of Call *sob*
Hey man, my first computer was a 486! I think it was 66 MHz. Then I upgraded to a Pentium 233 later. I even played Everquest on the 233 for a long time. Next I think I bought a 866 P3. And then we hit the P4 range. For the record, I didn't get "my first laptop" until I was out of college...
2008/10/17 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Thayer Williams <thayer@archlinux.org> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 09:55 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
LOL, did they even make P2 laptops? I imagine they'd be huge and heavy by today's standards
Hey, don't shit on P2 laptops! I became maintainer while I was using a P2 366 as laptop! And no, it wasn't heavy, it was quite lightweight with its 800x600 screen and 3-4 hours of battery life.
BTW: I could compile packages and watch xvid rips at the same time without framedrops on it without having an XV-accelerated videochip.
The first laptop I ever bought was a P4 :)
That really shows your age...or lack of =)
Granted, my first (and only) notebook is a dual core *ahem*, but hey my first workstation was an Amiga 1000. Ah, those were the days! I remember carrying buckets of floppy games uphill both ways. Barbarians...Pirates...Ports of Call *sob*
Hey man, my first computer was a 486! I think it was 66 MHz. Then I upgraded to a Pentium 233 later. I even played Everquest on the 233 for a long time.
Next I think I bought a 866 P3. And then we hit the P4 range. For the record, I didn't get "my first laptop" until I was out of college...
Ah, nostalgia! My first computer was a 386! (And I'm younger than you, hah!) And my first laptop was last year. :-P And I don't have a cell phone or smart phone to this day. Dusty
2008/10/18 Dusty Phillips <buchuki@gmail.com>:
2008/10/17 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Thayer Williams <thayer@archlinux.org> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 09:55 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
LOL, did they even make P2 laptops? I imagine they'd be huge and heavy by today's standards
Hey, don't shit on P2 laptops! I became maintainer while I was using a P2 366 as laptop! And no, it wasn't heavy, it was quite lightweight with its 800x600 screen and 3-4 hours of battery life.
BTW: I could compile packages and watch xvid rips at the same time without framedrops on it without having an XV-accelerated videochip.
The first laptop I ever bought was a P4 :)
That really shows your age...or lack of =)
Granted, my first (and only) notebook is a dual core *ahem*, but hey my first workstation was an Amiga 1000. Ah, those were the days! I remember carrying buckets of floppy games uphill both ways. Barbarians...Pirates...Ports of Call *sob*
Hey man, my first computer was a 486! I think it was 66 MHz. Then I upgraded to a Pentium 233 later. I even played Everquest on the 233 for a long time.
Next I think I bought a 866 P3. And then we hit the P4 range. For the record, I didn't get "my first laptop" until I was out of college...
Ah, nostalgia!
My first computer was a 386! (And I'm younger than you, hah!)
heh, how about USSR's first IBM PC compatible computer with USSR's first 8086-compatible CPU with PC-DOS 3.30 on it, that had the size of a large keyboard, 512KB of RAM, external 5.25" FDD + the ability to read data from audiotapes through ordinary player, and was video-connected directly into TV's board? :-D I wrote my first program on GWBASIC on it. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:41 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
Does anyone even use apm anymore? And if they do, shouldn't we discourage it?
Any issues with removing this and other related apm packages (if any) ?
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11776 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8451 That would close two bugs ;)
participants (8)
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Aaron Griffin
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Dan McGee
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Dusty Phillips
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Giovanni Scafora
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James Rayner
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Jan de Groot
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Roman Kyrylych
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Thayer Williams