[arch-dev-public] ArchCon 2009, Take 2: Let's make a date
And we're back. :) Here's how I see this working: 1. We agree a date 2. We agree a location 3 and upwards. We organise some stuff This mail is about step 1. ArchCon's date is the single most important element to be confirmed, and probably the hardest as well. I suggested 2009 in the original proposal because it's likely that some people already have plans for 2008. Obviously, there are also people who already have plans for 2009, but probably not as many. If we're going to do this, we should regard ArchCon as a pre-existing commitment that is given priority over other activities, and not something that we try to squeeze into existing schedules. To kick this off, I'm making some provisional decisions here: * ArchCon will take place over a weekend * ArchCon will last no more than four days * ArchCon will take place in warm weather (Yes, I know, that's a date/location mix, but necessary for the next step) (James - see below) And now here are five randomly-chosen corresponding weekend periods in 2009: 29 May - 01 June 26 - 29 June 24 - 27 July 21 - 24 August 18 - 21 September I would ask everyone to indicate which of these periods would suit them. Please select as many as possible, to increase our chances of finding a good one, and set aside any other concerns, such as funding, travel arrangements, size of mugs, etc. If we don't come up with a date, none of that will matter anyway. If anyone has a particularly strong case for a different weekend that meets the same criteria, please post the details. I realise that individual weekends may be too specific at this stage, but I'm going for a shortcut here - it would be worthwhile if we didn't have to drill down from month to week to weekend. So fire up cal/remind/Google/Oprius/whatever, pencil in some weekends for ArchCon, and post them here. I'd appreciate a majority of responses before the next Status Report, which is due in just over a week. If we can get the date confirmed before Christmas, that would be great. James - I am also aware that my warm weather requirement, combined with my chosen dates, indicates a preference for the Northern Hemisphere, but our geographical distribution suggests that anyway, right? Regards Tom.
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 11:18:34AM +0000, Tom K wrote:
And we're back. :)
Here's how I see this working: 1. We agree a date 2. We agree a location 3 and upwards. We organise some stuff
This mail is about step 1. ArchCon's date is the single most important element to be confirmed, and probably the hardest as well. I suggested 2009 in the original proposal because it's likely that some people already have plans for 2008. Obviously, there are also people who already have plans for 2009, but probably not as many. If we're going to do this, we should regard ArchCon as a pre-existing commitment that is given priority over other activities, and not something that we try to squeeze into existing schedules.
To kick this off, I'm making some provisional decisions here:
* ArchCon will take place over a weekend * ArchCon will last no more than four days * ArchCon will take place in warm weather (Yes, I know, that's a date/location mix, but necessary for the next step) (James - see below)
And now here are five randomly-chosen corresponding weekend periods in 2009: 29 May - 01 June 26 - 29 June 24 - 27 July 21 - 24 August 18 - 21 September
I would ask everyone to indicate which of these periods would suit them. Please select as many as possible, to increase our chances of finding a good one, and set aside any other concerns, such as funding, travel arrangements, size of mugs, etc. If we don't come up with a date, none of that will matter anyway.
If anyone has a particularly strong case for a different weekend that meets the same criteria, please post the details.
I realise that individual weekends may be too specific at this stage, but I'm going for a shortcut here - it would be worthwhile if we didn't have to drill down from month to week to weekend.
So fire up cal/remind/Google/Oprius/whatever, pencil in some weekends for ArchCon, and post them here. I'd appreciate a majority of responses before the next Status Report, which is due in just over a week. If we can get the date confirmed before Christmas, that would be great.
James - I am also aware that my warm weather requirement, combined with my chosen dates, indicates a preference for the Northern Hemisphere, but our geographical distribution suggests that anyway, right?
Well for lack of other reasons, I'd say we should throw out May, August, and September, because a bunch of us (maybe just me nowadays?) still go to school, and those are all times that school usually occupies. -S
James - I am also aware that my warm weather requirement, combined with my chosen dates, indicates a preference for the Northern Hemisphere, but our geographical distribution suggests that anyway, right?
Only date above that suggests warmer weather for here is the September one, but that's no good for me. September = Exams, or immediately before them. I didn't expect it to be here anyway... making all of you buy international tickets just to visit me seems a bit unfair.. Probably easier if we keep it on the cheap for as many as we can (so Europe/Nth America) and you all pay for my ticket j/k. Being a student, the only time I'd be able to do it is my mid-year or summer break. Summer break is a no-go as it's Nov-Feb -- and I'll have an industry placement at the end of 2009. My mid year isn't too flexible either, this year was 25-Jun to 13-July, plus a few days before because my exams finished early. I can't say when it'll be in 2009. James
Hi all, just an idea: it might be a good idea to organize our own meeting at Froscon 09. For example Drupal organized such an event this year. The good thing is that we could have conferrence rooms, food and even a place to sleep for free. Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre@jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de
On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 15:44 +0100, Pierre Schmitz wrote:
Hi all,
just an idea: it might be a good idea to organize our own meeting at Froscon 09. For example Drupal organized such an event this year. The good thing is that we could have conferrence rooms, food and even a place to sleep for free.
Pierre
And even if you don't want to sleep in the project room, the regina hotel nearby has a special offer for froscon people. I had a deal for 40 euros per night for a room with quite some luxury. Only problem is that besides the social event during froscon, there's nothing special about Sankt Augustin, the place is just dead during froscon.
Sunday 25 November 2007, Jan de Groot wrote: | On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 15:44 +0100, Pierre Schmitz wrote: | > Hi all, | > | > just an idea: it might be a good idea to organize our own | > meeting at Froscon 09. For example Drupal organized such an | > event this year. The good thing is that we could have | > conferrence rooms, food and even a place to sleep for free. | > | > Pierre | | And even if you don't want to sleep in the project room, the | regina hotel nearby has a special offer for froscon people. I had | a deal for 40 euros per night for a room with quite some luxury. | Only problem is that besides the social event during froscon, | there's nothing special about Sankt Augustin, the place is just | dead during froscon. because of all the computer zombies walking around at this time? all the population stays at home with nailed doors and windows? - D -- .·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´ ° ° ° ° ° ° ><((((º> ° ° ° ° ° <º)))>< <º)))><
Am Sonntag, 25. November 2007 20:02:07 schrieb Jan de Groot:
Only problem is that besides the social event during froscon, there's nothing special about Sankt Augustin, the place is just dead during froscon.
Right,but this should only matter if we want to meet for more than just one weekend. -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre@jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de
2007/11/25, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de>:
Hi all,
just an idea: it might be a good idea to organize our own meeting at Froscon 09. For example Drupal organized such an event this year. The good thing is that we could have conferrence rooms, food and even a place to sleep for free.
If Froscon'09 will be at August, 25th/26th (as the last one) - I'm fine with that date. I'm also fine with the country (as well as with others here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement). Though I cannot guarantee I'll be able to take part in ArchCon. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
On Nov 29, 2007 6:26 AM, Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@gmail.com> wrote:
2007/11/25, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de>:
Hi all,
just an idea: it might be a good idea to organize our own meeting at Froscon 09. For example Drupal organized such an event this year. The good thing is that we could have conferrence rooms, food and even a place to sleep for free.
If Froscon'09 will be at August, 25th/26th (as the last one) - I'm fine with that date.
I thought we wanted warm and scenic.... Germany in August? O.o hah
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 12:20 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Nov 29, 2007 6:26 AM, Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@gmail.com> wrote:
2007/11/25, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de>:
Hi all,
just an idea: it might be a good idea to organize our own meeting at Froscon 09. For example Drupal organized such an event this year. The good thing is that we could have conferrence rooms, food and even a place to sleep for free.
If Froscon'09 will be at August, 25th/26th (as the last one) - I'm fine with that date.
I thought we wanted warm and scenic.... Germany in August? O.o hah
Last froscon was quite good weather, we could still wear normal clothes without getting cold during the social event with Free beer^H^H^H^H Kolsch and google-sausages.
Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Nov 29, 2007 6:26 AM, Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@gmail.com> wrote:
2007/11/25, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de>:
Hi all,
just an idea: it might be a good idea to organize our own meeting at Froscon 09. For example Drupal organized such an event this year. The good thing is that we could have conferrence rooms, food and even a place to sleep for free.
If Froscon'09 will be at August, 25th/26th (as the last one) - I'm fine with that date.
I thought we wanted warm and scenic.... Germany in August? O.o hah
August usually can be one of the hottest months in Germany in summer... well, according to the average of the past 1000 years which seemed to have changed lately. heh Anyway, for me any date is fine as it's still more than one year away. pff... I don't even have a schedule that's further ahead than 4 weeks. :P Cheers, -F
On Dec 14, 2007 4:31 PM, Alexander Baldeck <kth5@archlinuxppc.org> wrote:
Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Nov 29, 2007 6:26 AM, Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@gmail.com> wrote:
2007/11/25, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de>:
Hi all,
just an idea: it might be a good idea to organize our own meeting at Froscon 09. For example Drupal organized such an event this year. The good thing is that we could have conferrence rooms, food and even a place to sleep for free.
If Froscon'09 will be at August, 25th/26th (as the last one) - I'm fine with that date.
I thought we wanted warm and scenic.... Germany in August? O.o hah
August usually can be one of the hottest months in Germany in summer... well, according to the average of the past 1000 years which seemed to have changed lately. heh
Anyway, for me any date is fine as it's still more than one year away. pff... I don't even have a schedule that's further ahead than 4 weeks. :P
Same here. I rarely plan ahead more than a week or so, except for things that other people setup, like parties, birthdays, holidays, etc
Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Dec 14, 2007 4:31 PM, Alexander Baldeck <kth5@archlinuxppc.org> wrote:
Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Nov 29, 2007 6:26 AM, Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@gmail.com> wrote:
2007/11/25, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de>:
Hi all,
just an idea: it might be a good idea to organize our own meeting at Froscon 09. For example Drupal organized such an event this year. The good thing is that we could have conferrence rooms, food and even a place to sleep for free.
If Froscon'09 will be at August, 25th/26th (as the last one) - I'm fine with that date. I thought we wanted warm and scenic.... Germany in August? O.o hah August usually can be one of the hottest months in Germany in summer... well, according to the average of the past 1000 years which seemed to have changed lately. heh
Anyway, for me any date is fine as it's still more than one year away. pff... I don't even have a schedule that's further ahead than 4 weeks. :P
Same here. I rarely plan ahead more than a week or so, except for things that other people setup, like parties, birthdays, holidays, etc
Well, if there's a general feeling that we should go for '08, that's fine with me too. Re the current trend of this conversation: I can of course see the practical benefits of organising our shindig around an existing, established event. I have to say, though, that my original thought was for ArchCon to stand on its own. Whether that's practical or not is open to discussion, of course. T.
On Dec 14, 2007 6:04 PM, Tom K <tom@archlinux.org> wrote:
Well, if there's a general feeling that we should go for '08, that's fine with me too.
I'd personally prefer '09 - already have vacation planned for '08, and not sure if I'll be able to justify two extravagent trips.
Re the current trend of this conversation: I can of course see the practical benefits of organising our shindig around an existing, established event. I have to say, though, that my original thought was for ArchCon to stand on its own. Whether that's practical or not is open to discussion, of course.
I thought stand-alone too, but that involves a ton of planning if we wanna do some kind of 'real' convention. If it's just a bunch of dev's in someone's mother's basement, then it'd be easier to do, heh. I don't mind organizing this around another con, or whatever - but I'd greatly prefer 2009. Any day/time combo is good for me in '09, and pretty well nothing will be good in '08.
Travis Willard wrote:
On Dec 14, 2007 6:04 PM, Tom K <tom@archlinux.org> wrote:
Well, if there's a general feeling that we should go for '08, that's fine with me too.
I'd personally prefer '09 - already have vacation planned for '08, and not sure if I'll be able to justify two extravagent trips.
I'm less for '09 than '08. I don't know where I'm going to be in '08 and saving money plus then keeping it is a great hassle. Berlin is a great city to live it but not to make a living. Thus, I may be outta here by then or simply wouldn't know where I'd be. Just a feeling about not liking to plan that much ahead.
Re the current trend of this conversation: I can of course see the practical benefits of organising our shindig around an existing, established event. I have to say, though, that my original thought was for ArchCon to stand on its own. Whether that's practical or not is open to discussion, of course.
I thought stand-alone too, but that involves a ton of planning if we wanna do some kind of 'real' convention. If it's just a bunch of dev's in someone's mother's basement, then it'd be easier to do, heh.
Hypothetically, if we would decide to do it in Germany I'd be able to get a huge room in the middle of town in the Tacheles art house for almost free. A week is about 400 bucks but since it's only 3 days, well. Internet redundancy is 4x and lots of people backing it. Well, I don't think doing this at someone's house is a very good idea.
I don't mind organizing this around another con, or whatever - but I'd greatly prefer 2009. Any day/time combo is good for me in '09, and pretty well nothing will be good in '08.
I'd rather not. Linuxtag wasn't all so bad cos it was a Linux fair and we hung around the booth most of the time anyways. But on froscon I would imagine, with that intensity of topics we'd easily be distracted by non-arch related stuff. Cheers, -G
participants (10)
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Aaron Griffin
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Alexander Baldeck
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Damir Perisa
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James Rayner
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Jan de Groot
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Pierre Schmitz
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Roman Kyrylych
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Simo Leone
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Tom K
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Travis Willard