On 01/02/20 at 11:18am, Santiago Torres-Arias via arch-dev-public wrote:

On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 05:12:33PM +0100, Jelle van der Waa wrote:

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For packages still providing python2 functionality such as vim and others I propose we remove python2 support to actively to discourage people using it.

I was +1 on this

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# Remove python2 support

* pycharm-community-edition - remove python2 support * vim - remove python2 support

Until I saw this.

I imagine editors and such may/could be an exception?

So following up from what grazollini and Eli have said, I guess we can keep it for vim, maybe focus more on optdepends and actual makedepends for I've found a lot of gnome packages having a python2 makedepends which can be removed or moved to python 3. Felix brought up a more radical approach of removing check() for python2 modules which would allow a lot of python2 modules to be removed. This is also blocking him from updating packages since he needs to bring new python2 modules in to update some python/python2 modules iirc. Felix, can you enlighten us? I don't want you to be blocked from keeping Arch rolling =) Greetings, Jelle van der Waa

Em janeiro 2, 2020 13:24 Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public escreveu:

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* pycharm-community-edition - remove python2 support

Seems reasonable to not encourage people to use python2 in an IDE these days.

Hi All, As we have discussed on IRC, I think that editors and python2 *lint* and *syntax* checkers, should be exempt from this. I'm for one use pycharm *a lot* and I'm expected/expecting to convert thousands of python2 code to python3 code in the coming *years*, not months, years. I'm perfectly fine installing python2 from the AUR for *running* python2 code, but how can people be encouraged to convert python2 code without even being able to syntax check it? So, in that regards, editores/linters/syntax checkers/etc, should be exempt from this, but *only* if they don't necessarily require python2 for that. As far as I know, pycharm doesn't require python2 itself for syntax highlighting and lint. Don't know about the others though. Regards, Giancarlo Razzolini