[arch-dev-public] games group
Hi all, I'm currently busy with the movement of gnome from /opt/gnome to /usr. One of the last packages I need to do is gnome-games, which is everything but fun. Current situation: - gnome-games package, many games, different ones for every major release - several score files per game, created by postinstall/postupgrade with root:user permissions, writable by user, created as 660 files. - score files can change in any release Now a games group would come in handy: - forget about the post_install and score files - install game binaries setgid games - users can't cheat anymore because they can only write score files by executing the game I would propose to add a games group and a directory called /var/games or /var/lib/games with root:games ownership and 775 rights.
urgh -1 i strictly against supporting/offering any games in the official repos. that conflicts with my personal intention what i would call a distribution "from the devs for the devs". such stuff should better remain in community or unsupported AUR. i have to waste so much of my rare bandwidth for such silly stuff :( but in technical it's not a bad idea. Andy
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:51:08 +0200 Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
urgh -1
i strictly against supporting/offering any games in the official repos. that conflicts with my personal intention what i would call a distribution "from the devs for the devs".
I'm a dev that likes games. Gnome-games is in the official repos, has been for a while; that's what's not in question here. :P As for the solution, I like it as well - clean and makes sense to me. -- Travis
2007/4/17, Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de>:
urgh -1
i strictly against supporting/offering any games in the official repos. that conflicts with my personal intention what i would call a distribution "from the devs for the devs". such stuff should better remain in community or unsupported AUR.
i have to waste so much of my rare bandwidth for such silly stuff :(
but in technical it's not a bad idea.
Come on, something like gnome-games is not yet-another-doom/quake/et-mod. :) At least Chess and Go are intelectual games. :P -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
On 4/16/07, Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
urgh -1
i strictly against supporting/offering any games in the official repos. that conflicts with my personal intention what i would call a distribution "from the devs for the devs". such stuff should better remain in community or unsupported AUR.
i have to waste so much of my rare bandwidth for such silly stuff :(
but in technical it's not a bad idea.
I have nothing against this here, but it'd be much more than just removing gnome-games. xeyes comes to mind, as well as quite a few other things. We begin encroaching on personal taste here. That said, +1 for the games group.
On 4/17/07, Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
urgh -1
i strictly against supporting/offering any games in the official repos. that conflicts with my personal intention what i would call a distribution "from the devs for the devs". such stuff should better remain in community or unsupported AUR.
That's what you call it, but not what arch is. Arch does not discriminate use, it's a multi purpose distro.
i have to waste so much of my rare bandwidth for such silly stuff :(
Chess and other intellectual games are not silly. Games are another valid form of entertainment, like movies or music. Maybe you don't see the fun in them, but many people do. I for example have been pottering around in ysflight for the last two days, a combat flight simulator. Studying aerospace engineering, it's been awesome fun to mess with.
but in technical it's not a bad idea.
So ignoring your personal views, that would be a yes? +1 from me. James -- iphitus // Arch Developer // kernel26beyond // iphitus.loudas.com
James wrote:
On 4/17/07, Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
urgh -1
i strictly against supporting/offering any games in the official repos. that conflicts with my personal intention what i would call a distribution "from the devs for the devs". such stuff should better remain in community or unsupported AUR.
That's what you call it, but not what arch is. Arch does not discriminate use, it's a multi purpose distro.
My thoughts exactly.
i have to waste so much of my rare bandwidth for such silly stuff :(
Chess and other intellectual games are not silly. Games are another valid form of entertainment, like movies or music. Maybe you don't see the fun in them, but many people do. I for example have been pottering around in ysflight for the last two days, a combat flight simulator. Studying aerospace engineering, it's been awesome fun to mess with.
but in technical it's not a bad idea.
So ignoring your personal views, that would be a yes?
+1 from me.
James
+1 from me too.
2007/4/17, Jan de Groot <jan@jgc.homeip.net>:
Hi all,
I'm currently busy with the movement of gnome from /opt/gnome to /usr. One of the last packages I need to do is gnome-games, which is everything but fun.
Current situation: - gnome-games package, many games, different ones for every major release - several score files per game, created by postinstall/postupgrade with root:user permissions, writable by user, created as 660 files. - score files can change in any release
Now a games group would come in handy: - forget about the post_install and score files - install game binaries setgid games - users can't cheat anymore because they can only write score files by executing the game
I would propose to add a games group and a directory called /var/games or /var/lib/games with root:games ownership and 775 rights.
+1. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 11:36:58PM +0200, Jan de Groot wrote:
Hi all,
I'm currently busy with the movement of gnome from /opt/gnome to /usr. One of the last packages I need to do is gnome-games, which is everything but fun.
Current situation: - gnome-games package, many games, different ones for every major release - several score files per game, created by postinstall/postupgrade with root:user permissions, writable by user, created as 660 files. - score files can change in any release
Now a games group would come in handy: - forget about the post_install and score files - install game binaries setgid games - users can't cheat anymore because they can only write score files by executing the game
I would propose to add a games group and a directory called /var/games or /var/lib/games with root:games ownership and 775 rights.
It's strange that everyone seems ok with this. I remember all the other times that it was suggested it was shouted down (I think it was on the tur-users list). I'm interested to hear the people who don't think this is a good idea. Jason
participants (8)
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Aaron Griffin
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Andreas Radke
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James
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Jan de Groot
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Jason Chu
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Roman Kyrylych
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Travis Willard
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Varun Acharya