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James

9 May 2007 9 May '07

10:20 a.m.

So here's for another developer meeting. We've got a ton of things to discuss, there's already a few stagnant threads on this ML that need picking up. I'm happy to work out an agenda, and progress reports on things would be good too, as well as checking on what we've done since the last meeting. I'd like to try something different with this one. I think we need to really discuss things, and to do this properly, i'm of the opinion, that text doesn't cut it. I propose, we meet on Saturday, 2nd June, same time as the last meeting, cept this time we use teamspeak. VOIP for the uninitiated. AFAIK it has text support for those without microphones... but a cheap standard, even name brand snd-usb-audio headset costs next to nothing. https://www.archlinux.org/wiki/Meeting%205/ James -- iphitus // Arch Developer // iphitus.loudas.com

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Jason Chu

9 May 9 May

2:32 p.m.

On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:20:34PM +1000, James wrote:

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So here's for another developer meeting.

We've got a ton of things to discuss, there's already a few stagnant threads on this ML that need picking up. I'm happy to work out an agenda, and progress reports on things would be good too, as well as checking on what we've done since the last meeting.

I'd like to try something different with this one. I think we need to really discuss things, and to do this properly, i'm of the opinion, that text doesn't cut it.

I propose, we meet on Saturday, 2nd June, same time as the last meeting, cept this time we use teamspeak. VOIP for the uninitiated.

AFAIK it has text support for those without microphones... but a cheap standard, even name brand snd-usb-audio headset costs next to nothing.

https://www.archlinux.org/wiki/Meeting%205/

James

That works well for the english speaking developers. The non-native speakers already have enough trouble keeping up on irc, I'm pretty sure a live chat would be even more difficult for them. Jason

Alexander Baldeck

2:37 p.m.

Jason Chu wrote:

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That works well for the english speaking developers. The non-native speakers already have enough trouble keeping up on irc, I'm pretty sure a live chat would be even more difficult for them.

Jason

I would love to do this though. From my experience having actually talked to people makes a huge difference in a good way. Linuxtag helped me - and I would expect all the others as well - to understand text only communication from people better as in judging what kind of mood they're in. This I think is a rather big problem we have, mails that sound like ranting may not be a rant at all, right? +1 from me for the voip chat Any other solutions than teamspeak though? Cheers, -F

Roman Kyrylych

2:58 p.m.

2007/5/9, Alexander Baldeck :

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Jason Chu wrote:

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That works well for the english speaking developers. The non-native speakers already have enough trouble keeping up on irc, I'm pretty sure a live chat would be even more difficult for them.

Jason

I would love to do this though. From my experience having actually talked to people makes a huge difference in a good way. Linuxtag helped me - and I would expect all the others as well - to understand text only communication from people better as in judging what kind of mood they're in. This I think is a rather big problem we have, mails that sound like ranting may not be a rant at all, right?

+1 from me for the voip chat

Any other solutions than teamspeak though?

I agree that voice communication is much better. Here are few issues I'd like to point out: 1) bandwidth and connection stability - will dev with a bad connection be able to really participate in communication? (I mean what if voice just dissapers for few or more seconds or worse - regularly?) if someone has experience with teamspeak on not-very-good connections - please share your opinions Will be 4-8KB/s enought? 2) the level of understability of native-spoken English by non-English-speaking devs - it would be nice if native English speakers try to speak sharp and not fast in any situations ;-) 3) how we will record the meeting? :-P - are there built-in features in server/client or there is some workaround? nevertheless +1 (though as a last resort IRC would be OK too ) - Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

Aaron Griffin

3:48 p.m.

On 5/9/07, Roman Kyrylych wrote:

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2007/5/9, Alexander Baldeck :

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Jason Chu wrote:

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That works well for the english speaking developers. The non-native speakers already have enough trouble keeping up on irc, I'm pretty sure a live chat would be even more difficult for them.

Jason

I would love to do this though. From my experience having actually talked to people makes a huge difference in a good way. Linuxtag helped me - and I would expect all the others as well - to understand text only communication from people better as in judging what kind of mood they're in. This I think is a rather big problem we have, mails that sound like ranting may not be a rant at all, right?

+1 from me for the voip chat

Any other solutions than teamspeak though?

I agree that voice communication is much better.

I've thought about this often, and flip-flopped on it. I think Roman covers a few of the issues... the main one being this: My english is probably hard for non-fluent german's to understand, and vice versa. Hell, I'd probably have a hard time listening to iphitus. You ever see the movie "Snatch"... that's all english and I can't understand half of it. 8)

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Here are few issues I'd like to point out: 1) bandwidth and connection stability - will dev with a bad connection be able to really participate in communication? (I mean what if voice just dissapers for few or more seconds or worse - regularly?) if someone has experience with teamspeak on not-very-good connections - please share your opinions Will be 4-8KB/s enought?

Teamspeak is actually pretty good. They thought things through pretty well. being that it's made for online gaming, soaking too much BW would kill the playability of the game. I have no idea how it'd perform on dialup though.

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2) the level of understability of native-spoken English by non-English-speaking devs - it would be nice if native English speakers try to speak sharp and not fast in any situations ;-)

One of my worst problems. I never realize this until I talk to a non-native speaker. I enunciate very poorly. Seriously, feel free to tell me if I'm talking stupid, because I don't realize it a lot of the time.

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3) how we will record the meeting? :-P - are there built-in features in server/client or there is some workaround?

Hmmm good question. I've been meaning to set up a local teamspeak server at home, but I know no details just yet.

Aaron Griffin

3:49 p.m.

On 5/9/07, Alexander Baldeck wrote:

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+1 from me for the voip chat

Any other solutions than teamspeak though?

I know very little about the process, so I can't comment. I do know that teamspeak it pretty good, but that's it. I'd love to use a more Open Source solution, but I've never looked into it.

Jason Chu

5:11 p.m.

On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:49:30AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On 5/9/07, Alexander Baldeck wrote:

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+1 from me for the voip chat

Any other solutions than teamspeak though?

I know very little about the process, so I can't comment. I do know that teamspeak it pretty good, but that's it. I'd love to use a more Open Source solution, but I've never looked into it.

I'd love to use something that I can get working through my new cell phone ;) So far I pretty much have skype and gizmo (SIP) going well enough to use. If everyone got a gizmo account (free, SIP compatible client) we could have a conference call that way. I don't know how well the bandwidth management stuff works. Jason

Roman Kyrylych

5:40 p.m.

2007/5/9, Jason Chu :

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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:49:30AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On 5/9/07, Alexander Baldeck wrote:

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+1 from me for the voip chat

Any other solutions than teamspeak though?

I know very little about the process, so I can't comment. I do know that teamspeak it pretty good, but that's it. I'd love to use a more Open Source solution, but I've never looked into it.

I'd love to use something that I can get working through my new cell phone ;) So far I pretty much have skype and gizmo (SIP) going well enough to use.

If everyone got a gizmo account (free, SIP compatible client) we could have a conference call that way. I don't know how well the bandwidth management stuff works.

There is also WengoPhone (openwengo.org) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

Aaron Griffin

6:03 p.m.

On 5/9/07, Roman Kyrylych wrote:

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2007/5/9, Jason Chu :

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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:49:30AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On 5/9/07, Alexander Baldeck wrote:

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+1 from me for the voip chat

Any other solutions than teamspeak though?

I know very little about the process, so I can't comment. I do know that teamspeak it pretty good, but that's it. I'd love to use a more Open Source solution, but I've never looked into it.

I'd love to use something that I can get working through my new cell phone ;) So far I pretty much have skype and gizmo (SIP) going well enough to use.

If everyone got a gizmo account (free, SIP compatible client) we could have a conference call that way. I don't know how well the bandwidth management stuff works.

There is also WengoPhone (openwengo.org)

I'm a big fan of WengoPhone. I've referenced their code for quite a few things - the developers really know what they're doing. Still, I've never used it before... /me installs

Jason Chu

6:05 p.m.

On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:40:50PM +0300, Roman Kyrylych wrote:

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2007/5/9, Jason Chu :

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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:49:30AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On 5/9/07, Alexander Baldeck wrote:

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+1 from me for the voip chat

Any other solutions than teamspeak though?

I know very little about the process, so I can't comment. I do know that teamspeak it pretty good, but that's it. I'd love to use a more Open Source solution, but I've never looked into it.

I'd love to use something that I can get working through my new cell phone ;) So far I pretty much have skype and gizmo (SIP) going well enough to use.

If everyone got a gizmo account (free, SIP compatible client) we could have a conference call that way. I don't know how well the bandwidth management stuff works.

There is also WengoPhone (openwengo.org)

As long as it's SIP compatible, then I can use my gizmo account to connect to any conference room anywhere. Jason

James

10 May 10 May

7:57 a.m.

On 5/10/07, Jason Chu wrote:

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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:40:50PM +0300, Roman Kyrylych wrote:

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2007/5/9, Jason Chu :

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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:49:30AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On 5/9/07, Alexander Baldeck wrote:

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+1 from me for the voip chat

Any other solutions than teamspeak though?

I know very little about the process, so I can't comment. I do know that teamspeak it pretty good, but that's it. I'd love to use a more Open Source solution, but I've never looked into it.

I'd love to use something that I can get working through my new cell phone ;) So far I pretty much have skype and gizmo (SIP) going well enough to use.

If everyone got a gizmo account (free, SIP compatible client) we could have a conference call that way. I don't know how well the bandwidth management stuff works.

There is also WengoPhone (openwengo.org)

As long as it's SIP compatible, then I can use my gizmo account to connect to any conference room anywhere.

Jason

There's also ekiga, previously known as gnomemeeting. I suggested teamspeak, because i've used it before, it's fairly low fuss, and works well on slower connections too. And to be honest, I didn't put much thought to those who have english as a second language. Most of your written english is as good as, if not better than some native speakers, so I presumed that it wouldnt be too much of a problem. I still think it's worth a shot, I think we ought to be able to understand each other well enough for the purpose of the meeting. James -- iphitus // Arch Developer // iphitus.loudas.com

Aaron Griffin

8:13 a.m.

On 5/10/07, James wrote:

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On 5/10/07, Jason Chu wrote:

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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:40:50PM +0300, Roman Kyrylych wrote:

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2007/5/9, Jason Chu :

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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:49:30AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On 5/9/07, Alexander Baldeck wrote:

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+1 from me for the voip chat

Any other solutions than teamspeak though?

I know very little about the process, so I can't comment. I do know that teamspeak it pretty good, but that's it. I'd love to use a more Open Source solution, but I've never looked into it.

I'd love to use something that I can get working through my new cell phone ;) So far I pretty much have skype and gizmo (SIP) going well enough to use.

If everyone got a gizmo account (free, SIP compatible client) we could have a conference call that way. I don't know how well the bandwidth management stuff works.

There is also WengoPhone (openwengo.org)

As long as it's SIP compatible, then I can use my gizmo account to connect to any conference room anywhere.

Jason

There's also ekiga, previously known as gnomemeeting.

I suggested teamspeak, because i've used it before, it's fairly low fuss, and works well on slower connections too.

And to be honest, I didn't put much thought to those who have english as a second language. Most of your written english is as good as, if not better than some native speakers, so I presumed that it wouldnt be too much of a problem. I still think it's worth a shot, I think we ought to be able to understand each other well enough for the purpose of the meeting.

And if not we could do IRC at the same time for those who aren't comfortable with it... just a thought

Roman Kyrylych

8:19 a.m.

2007/5/10, Aaron Griffin :

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On 5/10/07, James wrote:

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On 5/10/07, Jason Chu wrote:

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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:40:50PM +0300, Roman Kyrylych wrote:

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2007/5/9, Jason Chu :

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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:49:30AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On 5/9/07, Alexander Baldeck wrote: > +1 from me for the voip chat > > Any other solutions than teamspeak though?

I know very little about the process, so I can't comment. I do know that teamspeak it pretty good, but that's it. I'd love to use a more Open Source solution, but I've never looked into it.

I'd love to use something that I can get working through my new cell phone ;) So far I pretty much have skype and gizmo (SIP) going well enough to use.

If everyone got a gizmo account (free, SIP compatible client) we could have a conference call that way. I don't know how well the bandwidth management stuff works.

There is also WengoPhone (openwengo.org)

As long as it's SIP compatible, then I can use my gizmo account to connect to any conference room anywhere.

Jason

There's also ekiga, previously known as gnomemeeting.

I suggested teamspeak, because i've used it before, it's fairly low fuss, and works well on slower connections too.

And to be honest, I didn't put much thought to those who have english as a second language. Most of your written english is as good as, if not better than some native speakers, so I presumed that it wouldnt be too much of a problem. I still think it's worth a shot, I think we ought to be able to understand each other well enough for the purpose of the meeting.

And if not we could do IRC at the same time for those who aren't comfortable with it... just a thought

amen :-) (let it be so) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

Jason Chu

2:15 p.m.

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And to be honest, I didn't put much thought to those who have english as a second language. Most of your written english is as good as, if not better than some native speakers, so I presumed that it wouldnt be too much of a problem. I still think it's worth a shot, I think we ought to be able to understand each other well enough for the purpose of the meeting.

Ummm... I wasn't talking about myself. The only language I speak is english ;o) I'm just looking out for the other people who have brought up this concern over IRC dev meetings. Jason

James

2:18 p.m.

On 5/11/07, Jason Chu wrote:

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And to be honest, I didn't put much thought to those who have english as a second language. Most of your written english is as good as, if not better than some native speakers, so I presumed that it wouldnt be too much of a problem. I still think it's worth a shot, I think we ought to be able to understand each other well enough for the purpose of the meeting.

Ummm... I wasn't talking about myself. The only language I speak is english ;o) I'm just looking out for the other people who have brought up this concern over IRC dev meetings.

Nope, i know it's your first, but I just saying generally. I think it's worth a try at the least. James -- iphitus // Arch Developer // iphitus.loudas.com

Jürgen Hötzel

9 May 9 May

3:50 p.m.

On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:32:52AM -0700, Jason Chu wrote:

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That works well for the english speaking developers. The non-native speakers already have enough trouble keeping up on irc, I'm pretty sure a live chat would be even more difficult for them.

I prefer IRC (i can consult dictionaries). Its hard enough to understand for a non-native english speaker. Jürgen

Alexander Baldeck

19 May 19 May

4:38 p.m.

Problem, some of us (JGC, tpowa & andyrtr) are going to be on Linuxtag. The 2nd of June will be our last day on the exhibition and so we're probably going to get drunk the evening after plus need to dismantle the booth the next day. I would like to suggest we either postpone the meeting or do it on the 1st when the booth staff can either login from the site or in the evening and not to have to worry about headaches. ;) Cheers, -I

Aaron Griffin

20 May 20 May

7:40 a.m.

On 5/19/07, Alexander Baldeck wrote:

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Problem, some of us (JGC, tpowa & andyrtr) are going to be on Linuxtag. The 2nd of June will be our last day on the exhibition and so we're probably going to get drunk the evening after plus need to dismantle the booth the next day. I would like to suggest we either postpone the meeting or do it on the 1st when the booth staff can either login from the site or in the evening and not to have to worry about headaches. ;)

The first would be ok, but that's my birthday 8)

James Rayner

9:46 a.m.

On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 02:40:46AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On 5/19/07, Alexander Baldeck wrote:

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Problem, some of us (JGC, tpowa & andyrtr) are going to be on Linuxtag. The 2nd of June will be our last day on the exhibition and so we're probably going to get drunk the evening after plus need to dismantle the booth the next day. I would like to suggest we either postpone the meeting or do it on the 1st when the booth staff can either login from the site or in the evening and not to have to worry about headaches. ;)

The first would be ok, but that's my birthday 8)

so we can sing you happy birthday over teamspeak ;) I can't do the first either, how about the 9/10th June?

Daniel Isenmann

10:42 a.m.

Just a small note. I don't know how compatible is teamspeak to the SIP protocol, but there are no Teamspeak client for 64bit. The only SIP client I know that works under 64bit is ekiga. If I can connect to Teamspeak server, than alright, if not, not so a good idea. I know, that there was discussions about other clients. Anyone know, if ekiga can connect to Teamspeak-Server?? Daniel

Roman Kyrylych

27 May 27 May

2:20 p.m.

2007/5/20, Daniel Isenmann :

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Just a small note. I don't know how compatible is teamspeak to the SIP protocol, but there are no Teamspeak client for 64bit.

The only SIP client I know that works under 64bit is ekiga. If I can connect to Teamspeak server, than alright, if not, not so a good idea.

I know, that there was discussions about other clients. Anyone know, if ekiga can connect to Teamspeak-Server??

I think we should definetely do some testing before the meeting starts. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

Roman Kyrylych

2:18 p.m.

2007/5/20, James Rayner :

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On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 02:40:46AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On 5/19/07, Alexander Baldeck wrote:

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Problem, some of us (JGC, tpowa & andyrtr) are going to be on Linuxtag. The 2nd of June will be our last day on the exhibition and so we're probably going to get drunk the evening after plus need to dismantle the booth the next day. I would like to suggest we either postpone the meeting or do it on the 1st when the booth staff can either login from the site or in the evening and not to have to worry about headaches. ;)

The first would be ok, but that's my birthday 8)

so we can sing you happy birthday over teamspeak ;)

I can't do the first either, how about the 9/10th June?

Considering the fact that some people have exams in the first half of of June, it seems that the meeting has to be postponed to 16/17, or even more? Let's define some date. ;-) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

eliott

4 Jun 4 Jun

4:39 a.m.

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Considering the fact that some people have exams in the first half of of June, it seems that the meeting has to be postponed to 16/17, or even more? Let's define some date. ;-)

Anyone set a date yet?

Jeff Mickey

7:43 p.m.

On 6/4/07, eliott wrote:

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Anyone set a date yet?

How about saturday the 16th at noon EST? I don't know what the best time is, but I'd say that saturday is pretty open for me. // jeff -- . : [ + carpe diem totus tuus + ] : .

Jason Chu

10:15 p.m.

On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 03:43:48PM -0400, Jeff Mickey wrote:

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On 6/4/07, eliott wrote:

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Anyone set a date yet?

How about saturday the 16th at noon EST? I don't know what the best time is, but I'd say that saturday is pretty open for me.

// jeff

If the meeting is a short one, I could probably attend. Or at least attend for a short amount of time in a longer meeting... Jason

Aaron Griffin

10:33 p.m.

On 6/4/07, Jason Chu wrote:

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On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 03:43:48PM -0400, Jeff Mickey wrote:

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On 6/4/07, eliott wrote:

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Anyone set a date yet?

How about saturday the 16th at noon EST? I don't know what the best time is, but I'd say that saturday is pretty open for me.

// jeff

If the meeting is a short one, I could probably attend. Or at least attend for a short amount of time in a longer meeting...

I'm pretty much available regardless, as only as it's not on Father's Day (which is what? like the 17th I think?)

Travis Willard

5 Jun 5 Jun

midnight

On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:43:48 -0400 "Jeff Mickey" wrote:

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On 6/4/07, eliott wrote:

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Anyone set a date yet?

How about saturday the 16th at noon EST? I don't know what the best time is, but I'd say that saturday is pretty open for me.

// jeff

I... should be able to make it. That's the day after my grad ceremony, and many relatives are going to be at that ceremony. Don't know if they have plans for the next day or not. If I can't make it, I'll be sure to catch up with the minutes. -- Travis

Varun Acharya

1:03 a.m.

Travis Willard wrote:

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On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:43:48 -0400 "Jeff Mickey" wrote:

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On 6/4/07, eliott wrote:

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Anyone set a date yet?

How about saturday the 16th at noon EST? I don't know what the best time is, but I'd say that saturday is pretty open for me.

// jeff

Sunday is better for me. Better to be hung over than drunk for a meeting.

Varun

Jeff 'codemac' Mickey

1:24 a.m.

* On Tuesday, June 05 2007, Varun Acharya wrote:

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Sunday is better for me. Better to be hung over than drunk for a meeting.

Varun

Sounds like that Sunday is a better day for almost everyone. Last try, June 17th anyone? // jeff -- .: [ + carpe diem totus tuus + ] :.

eliott

3:23 a.m.

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Jeff 'codemac' Mickey wrote: * On Tuesday, June 05 2007, Varun Acharya wrote:

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Sunday is better for me. Better to be hung over than drunk for a meeting.

Varun

Sounds like that Sunday is a better day for almost everyone.

Last try, June 17th anyone?

// jeff

Fathers day? I vote we have the meeting in 15 minutes, in my hallway.

Eric Belanger

7:12 a.m.

On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, eliott wrote:

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Jeff 'codemac' Mickey wrote: * On Tuesday, June 05 2007, Varun Acharya wrote:

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Sunday is better for me. Better to be hung over than drunk for a meeting.

Varun

Sounds like that Sunday is a better day for almost everyone.

Last try, June 17th anyone?

// jeff

Fathers day? I vote we have the meeting in 15 minutes, in my hallway.

Saturday at noon EST would be good for me or Sunday if it's in the end of afternoon or evening. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Pierre Schmitz

11:09 a.m.

Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 09:12:24 schrieb Eric Belanger:

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Saturday at noon EST would be good for me or Sunday if it's in the end of afternoon or evening.

Should be possible for me. It will be on IRC, right? Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre@jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de

Varun Acharya

2:20 p.m.

Pierre Schmitz wrote:

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Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 09:12:24 schrieb Eric Belanger:

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Saturday at noon EST would be good for me or Sunday if it's in the end of afternoon or evening.

Should be possible for me. It will be on IRC, right?

Pierre

Good question. Wasn't there some talk of teamspeak or ekiga? Varun

Andreas Radke

6:17 p.m.

Am Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:50:26 +0530 schrieb Varun Acharya :

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Pierre Schmitz wrote:

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Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 09:12:24 schrieb Eric Belanger:

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Saturday at noon EST would be good for me or Sunday if it's in the end of afternoon or evening.

Should be possible for me. It will be on IRC, right?

Pierre

Good question. Wasn't there some talk of teamspeak or ekiga?

Varun

i'll be there if it's again an IRC meeting like we did in the past. afaik ekiga isn't working in teammode and teamspeak is a nogo for me. won't install any closed source stuff here and especially if they don't support 64bit. Andy

Varun Acharya

6:24 p.m.

Andreas Radke wrote:

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i'll be there if it's again an IRC meeting like we did in the past.

afaik ekiga isn't working in teammode and teamspeak is a nogo for me. won't install any closed source stuff here and especially if they don't support 64bit.

Andy

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IRC for me too. I don't think voice chat will give me sufficient time to think and express myself. Varun

Jason Chu

6:30 p.m.

On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:17:30PM +0200, Andreas Radke wrote:

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Am Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:50:26 +0530 schrieb Varun Acharya :

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Pierre Schmitz wrote:

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Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 09:12:24 schrieb Eric Belanger:

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Saturday at noon EST would be good for me or Sunday if it's in the end of afternoon or evening.

Should be possible for me. It will be on IRC, right?

Pierre

Good question. Wasn't there some talk of teamspeak or ekiga?

Varun

i'll be there if it's again an IRC meeting like we did in the past.

afaik ekiga isn't working in teammode and teamspeak is a nogo for me. ^^^^^^^^ You mean conference mode?

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won't install any closed source stuff here and especially if they don't support 64bit.

Do twinkle, twinkle-kdefree or sofia-sip work in 64bit? They're all sip clients... Jason

Varun Acharya

6:43 p.m.

Jason Chu wrote:

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Do twinkle, twinkle-kdefree or sofia-sip work in 64bit? They're all sip clients...

Jason

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Yes we have them in our repo's. I'll test it tomorrow and let you know if it works. Still, I vote for IRC. Varun

Dale Blount

12:04 p.m.

On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 21:24 -0400, Jeff 'codemac' Mickey wrote:

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* On Tuesday, June 05 2007, Varun Acharya wrote:

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Sunday is better for me. Better to be hung over than drunk for a meeting.

Varun

Sounds like that Sunday is a better day for almost everyone.

Last try, June 17th anyone?

Both days are pretty bad for me, but let me know when and I'll try to make most of it. Dale

Paul Mattal

12:05 p.m.

Dale Blount wrote:

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On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 21:24 -0400, Jeff 'codemac' Mickey wrote:

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* On Tuesday, June 05 2007, Varun Acharya wrote:

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Sunday is better for me. Better to be hung over than drunk for a meeting.

Varun Sounds like that Sunday is a better day for almost everyone.

Last try, June 17th anyone?

Both days are pretty bad for me, but let me know when and I'll try to make most of it.

Thank you, Dale, for putting into words what I was also needing to say! - P

Tom K

9:22 p.m.

Paul Mattal wrote:

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Dale Blount wrote:

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On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 21:24 -0400, Jeff 'codemac' Mickey wrote:

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* On Tuesday, June 05 2007, Varun Acharya wrote:

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Sunday is better for me. Better to be hung over than drunk for a meeting.

Varun Sounds like that Sunday is a better day for almost everyone.

Last try, June 17th anyone? Both days are pretty bad for me, but let me know when and I'll try to make most of it.

Thank you, Dale, for putting into words what I was also needing to say!

- P

Me too - although as I've mentioned before, weekends in general are not good for me, which I realise is the opposite of most here. T.

Varun Acharya

8 Jun 8 Jun

9:39 a.m.

Tom K wrote:

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Me too - although as I've mentioned before, weekends in general are not good for me, which I realise is the opposite of most here.

T.

This thread just died, didn't it. So when is it? The last time we had the meeting was on a sunday, about 16:30 GMT, I think. Please lets keep all times in GMT from now on cause its so much more universal. Also, do we have an agenda somewhere? Varun

Roman Kyrylych

2:05 p.m.

2007/6/8, Varun Acharya :

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This thread just died, didn't it. So when is it? The last time we had the meeting was on a sunday, about 16:30 GMT, I think. Please lets keep all times in GMT from now on cause its so much more universal. Also, do we have an agenda somewhere?

this time the proposal is 16:00 GMT on Saturday 16th, if I get it correct, because Sunday 17th is Father's Day, right? The agenda is here: http://archlinux.org/wiki/Meeting%205/ -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

Varun Acharya

4:27 p.m.

Roman Kyrylych wrote:

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2007/6/8, Varun Acharya :

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This thread just died, didn't it. So when is it? The last time we had the meeting was on a sunday, about 16:30 GMT, I think. Please lets keep all times in GMT from now on cause its so much more universal. Also, do we have an agenda somewhere?

this time the proposal is 16:00 GMT on Saturday 16th, if I get it correct, because Sunday 17th is Father's Day, right?

The agenda is here: http://archlinux.org/wiki/Meeting%205/

I thought most (including me) are busy on saturday and preferred sunday... Is father's day actually preventing anyone from attending? Can we vote on this? Varun P.S. Thanks for agenda link, I keep forgetting I have dashboard access now.

Aaron Griffin

4:45 p.m.

On 6/8/07, Varun Acharya wrote:

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Roman Kyrylych wrote:

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2007/6/8, Varun Acharya :

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This thread just died, didn't it. So when is it? The last time we had the meeting was on a sunday, about 16:30 GMT, I think. Please lets keep all times in GMT from now on cause its so much more universal. Also, do we have an agenda somewhere?

this time the proposal is 16:00 GMT on Saturday 16th, if I get it correct, because Sunday 17th is Father's Day, right?

The agenda is here: http://archlinux.org/wiki/Meeting%205/

I thought most (including me) are busy on saturday and preferred sunday... Is father's day actually preventing anyone from attending? Can we vote on this?

Yeah, I will be about 3 hours away from my computer, so sunday is a no-go for me.

Dale Blount

5:30 p.m.

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I thought most (including me) are busy on saturday and preferred sunday... Is father's day actually preventing anyone from attending? Can we vote on this?

Yeah, I will be about 3 hours away from my computer, so sunday is a no-go for me.

Me too. Not 3 hours, but far enough telepathy won't let me read/hear the conversation. Dale

Roman Kyrylych

5 Jun 5 Jun

2:22 p.m.

2007/6/4, Jeff Mickey :

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On 6/4/07, eliott wrote:

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Anyone set a date yet?

How about saturday the 16th at noon EST? I don't know what the best time is, but I'd say that saturday is pretty open for me.

I'm fine with any date. But can we please speak about time in UTC/GMT timezone? Does "at noon EST" == 17 UTC? -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

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