[arch-dev-public] Worthless out of tree kernel modules
Guys, Why on earth are we maintaining any of the following? * fcpci- pkgrel of 66 * fcpcmcia- pkgrel of 62 * slmodem- pkgrel of 62, not even available for x86_64 Frankly, if these can't make the cut to land in the kernel tree after 10 years, we are wasting our time packaging them. Might as well safe the kernel packagers some headaches. -Dan
Am 15.02.2012 01:20, schrieb Dan McGee:
Guys,
Why on earth are we maintaining any of the following?
* fcpci- pkgrel of 66 * fcpcmcia- pkgrel of 62 * slmodem- pkgrel of 62, not even available for x86_64
Frankly, if these can't make the cut to land in the kernel tree after 10 years, we are wasting our time packaging them. Might as well safe the kernel packagers some headaches.
-Dan
They cannot land in the kernel because they are proprietary. Afaik there are people working on a free driver for the fritz cards which will also support capi; so these drivers might be replaceable by open source ones some day. -- Pierre Schmitz, http://pierre-schmitz.com
Am 15.02.2012 06:54, schrieb Pierre Schmitz:
Am 15.02.2012 01:20, schrieb Dan McGee:
Guys,
Why on earth are we maintaining any of the following?
* fcpci- pkgrel of 66 * fcpcmcia- pkgrel of 62 * slmodem- pkgrel of 62, not even available for x86_64
Frankly, if these can't make the cut to land in the kernel tree after 10 years, we are wasting our time packaging them. Might as well safe the kernel packagers some headaches.
-Dan Only fcpci and fcpcmcia support capi2.0 which is needed for isdn hylafax capability. This can be dropped when the isdn userland tools will fully support capi2.0 which is worked on for a while. I'm happy if I don't need to build those anymore. I guess this year they can finally die.
greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa@archlinux.org
Am 15.02.2012 08:23, schrieb Tobias Powalowski:
Am 15.02.2012 06:54, schrieb Pierre Schmitz:
Am 15.02.2012 01:20, schrieb Dan McGee:
Guys,
Why on earth are we maintaining any of the following?
* fcpci- pkgrel of 66 * fcpcmcia- pkgrel of 62 * slmodem- pkgrel of 62, not even available for x86_64
Frankly, if these can't make the cut to land in the kernel tree after 10 years, we are wasting our time packaging them. Might as well safe the kernel packagers some headaches.
-Dan Only fcpci and fcpcmcia support capi2.0 which is needed for isdn hylafax capability. This can be dropped when the isdn userland tools will fully support capi2.0 which is worked on for a while. I'm happy if I don't need to build those anymore. I guess this year they can finally die.
What about slmodem then? I doubt anyone actually uses that.
Am 15.02.2012 09:45, schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Am 15.02.2012 08:23, schrieb Tobias Powalowski:
Am 15.02.2012 06:54, schrieb Pierre Schmitz:
Am 15.02.2012 01:20, schrieb Dan McGee:
Guys,
Why on earth are we maintaining any of the following?
* fcpci- pkgrel of 66 * fcpcmcia- pkgrel of 62 * slmodem- pkgrel of 62, not even available for x86_64
Frankly, if these can't make the cut to land in the kernel tree after 10 years, we are wasting our time packaging them. Might as well safe the kernel packagers some headaches.
-Dan Only fcpci and fcpcmcia support capi2.0 which is needed for isdn hylafax capability. This can be dropped when the isdn userland tools will fully support capi2.0 which is worked on for a while. I'm happy if I don't need to build those anymore. I guess this year they can finally die.
What about slmodem then? I doubt anyone actually uses that.
Looking at the pkgbuild makes me cry; I also wonder why we use a version from 2008 with patches when there is a new one from 2011. But anyway, usage of that package is below a measurable threshold. But in general I don't care that much as long as people maintain these. Dropping useless orphaned packages is fine though. -- Pierre Schmitz, http://pierre-schmitz.com
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Pierre Schmitz
Am 15.02.2012 09:45, schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Am 15.02.2012 08:23, schrieb Tobias Powalowski:
Am 15.02.2012 06:54, schrieb Pierre Schmitz:
Am 15.02.2012 01:20, schrieb Dan McGee:
Guys,
Why on earth are we maintaining any of the following?
* fcpci- pkgrel of 66 * fcpcmcia- pkgrel of 62 * slmodem- pkgrel of 62, not even available for x86_64
Frankly, if these can't make the cut to land in the kernel tree after 10 years, we are wasting our time packaging them. Might as well safe the kernel packagers some headaches.
-Dan Only fcpci and fcpcmcia support capi2.0 which is needed for isdn hylafax capability. This can be dropped when the isdn userland tools will fully support capi2.0 which is worked on for a while. I'm happy if I don't need to build those anymore. I guess this year they can finally die.
What about slmodem then? I doubt anyone actually uses that.
Looking at the pkgbuild makes me cry; I also wonder why we use a version from 2008 with patches when there is a new one from 2011. But anyway, usage of that package is below a measurable threshold.
But in general I don't care that much as long as people maintain these. Dropping useless orphaned packages is fine though.
Mainly it was a "I can't believe anyone still uses this" question, and trying to save our kernel maintainers some work that isn't necessary, that's all. -Dan
participants (4)
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Dan McGee
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Pierre Schmitz
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Thomas Bächler
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Tobias Powalowski