On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 04:12:46PM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:

On 9/20/07, JJDaNiMoTh wrote:

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I know that this isn't the right place, but I try. What about people without a DSL connection? They can download core isos ( that are more frequently released ) from university or at work, it's right.. but how they can download all the packages in /extra? Have we a plain for these situation (like a iso with-all, using a dvd)?

Excuse me if this was recently discussed. Links are appreciated :D

This was discussed, but it wasn't covered in a public manner all that well.

The rough plan, at this point, would be to create *additional* ISOs with sets of packages. This was suggested around the proverbial water cooler, but was never really laid out all that well.

Here's what I see, and I will bring this up with the rest of the developers, to see what they think, but I do agree it is something we didn't fully address before doing this.

I personally feel we could make one or two addon disks which JUST have packages for people to download. Or, alternatively, throw some scripts out there so people can make a package iso simply... or hell, even both.

What do the rest of the devs think?

I think having some common ISOs would be good, but we'd probably need scripts to generate them anyway. Those scripts would have to be able to figure out what licensed packages are non-distributable before creating the ISO though... Jason

Aaron Griffin schrieb:

On 9/20/07, JJDaNiMoTh wrote:

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They can download core isos ( that are more frequently released ) from university or at work, it's right.. but how they can download all the packages in /extra? Have we a plain for these situation (like a iso with-all, using a dvd)?

Excuse me if this was recently discussed. Links are appreciated :D

This was discussed, but it wasn't covered in a public manner all that well.

The rough plan, at this point, would be to create *additional* ISOs with sets of packages. This was suggested around the proverbial water cooler, but was never really laid out all that well.

The plan that at least some of us had, was to provide an additional iso in DVD size that includes the installer, core and most of extra. While this won't happen for the next release (2.6.23, maybe already this month), I want it to happen for the 2.6.24 release which should be around in December. We should then provide three isos again, 'ftp', 'core' and 'extra'. Nothing has been done about the actual implementation yet, there are still some ideas needed about how to sort out non-free packages and possibly how to fit it on a DVD. When installing from the DVD, the installer should provide the possibility to use the DVD as a repository instead of the online repositories. This would benefit offline users, they could get the DVD (it could be sold like our current isos) and update their system every three months. This could also be useful for users with a slow connection, who can do small updates online, but not the smaller ones.