[arch-dev-public] [website] separate Dev+TU list
Please someone change the http://www.archlinux.org/developers/ list into two parts: devs and TUs. Right it states "Core developers" and that's not true. -Andy
Andreas Radke schrieb:
Please someone change the http://www.archlinux.org/developers/ list into two parts: devs and TUs. Right it states "Core developers" and that's not true.
Agreed, Developers and Trusted Users should be listed separately.
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Andreas Radke<a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
Please someone change the http://www.archlinux.org/developers/ list into two parts: devs and TUs. Right it states "Core developers" and that's not true.
Yeah, I was planning in poking Dusty about this. It gets overwhelming. I still have 3-4 accounts I need to add... sigh Dusty, could we split this out by "Role"? All the TUs should have "Trusted User" as their role. Maybe just put != "Trusted User" at the top of the page, and "Trusted User" below it?
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:58:59 -0500 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Andreas Radke<a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
Please someone change the http://www.archlinux.org/developers/ list into two parts: devs and TUs. Right it states "Core developers" and that's not true.
Yeah, I was planning in poking Dusty about this. It gets overwhelming. I still have 3-4 accounts I need to add... sigh
Dusty, could we split this out by "Role"? All the TUs should have "Trusted User" as their role. Maybe just put != "Trusted User" at the top of the page, and "Trusted User" below it?
'!= "Trusted User"' == 'Developer' ? Dieter
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Dieter Plaetinck<dieter@plaetinck.be> wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:58:59 -0500 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Andreas Radke<a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
Please someone change the http://www.archlinux.org/developers/ list into two parts: devs and TUs. Right it states "Core developers" and that's not true.
Yeah, I was planning in poking Dusty about this. It gets overwhelming. I still have 3-4 accounts I need to add... sigh
Dusty, could we split this out by "Role"? All the TUs should have "Trusted User" as their role. Maybe just put != "Trusted User" at the top of the page, and "Trusted User" below it?
'!= "Trusted User"' == 'Developer' ?
Yeah, kinda. In the past, the "Roles" were used more freely. I think Jan used to be on there as "Gnome Maintainer"
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:08:00 -0500 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Dieter Plaetinck<dieter@plaetinck.be> wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:58:59 -0500 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Andreas Radke<a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
Please someone change the http://www.archlinux.org/developers/ list into two parts: devs and TUs. Right it states "Core developers" and that's not true.
Yeah, I was planning in poking Dusty about this. It gets overwhelming. I still have 3-4 accounts I need to add... sigh
Dusty, could we split this out by "Role"? All the TUs should have "Trusted User" as their role. Maybe just put != "Trusted User" at the top of the page, and "Trusted User" below it?
'!= "Trusted User"' == 'Developer' ?
Yeah, kinda. In the past, the "Roles" were used more freely. I think Jan used to be on there as "Gnome Maintainer"
Well, I think that any "important" technical role can be classified under "developer" (core/extra packages, sysadmin work, releng, etc) (of course you can clarify and mention more specific roles. just saying what 'developer' means to me) Dieter
2009/8/24 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
Dusty, could we split this out by "Role"? All the TUs should have "Trusted User" as their role. Maybe just put != "Trusted User" at the top of the page, and "Trusted User" below it?
Heh, I just noticed this yesterday and wanted to ping you about the best solution.. I was thinking of some ugly hack based on repo permissions; role based is much simpler. Can you file a bug report? ahahahaha. I'll try to get to it directly after breakfast. Should only take a few minutes. Dusty
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Dusty Phillips<dusty@linux.ca> wrote:
2009/8/24 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
Dusty, could we split this out by "Role"? All the TUs should have "Trusted User" as their role. Maybe just put != "Trusted User" at the top of the page, and "Trusted User" below it?
Heh, I just noticed this yesterday and wanted to ping you about the best solution.. I was thinking of some ugly hack based on repo permissions; role based is much simpler.
If that's easier, it seems fine to me. If repos == community, TU If repos > community, Developer else, Other ??
Can you file a bug report? ahahahaha.
I'll try to get to it directly after breakfast. Should only take a few minutes.
2009/8/24 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Dusty Phillips<dusty@linux.ca> wrote:
2009/8/24 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com>:
Dusty, could we split this out by "Role"? All the TUs should have "Trusted User" as their role. Maybe just put != "Trusted User" at the top of the page, and "Trusted User" below it?
Heh, I just noticed this yesterday and wanted to ping you about the best solution.. I was thinking of some ugly hack based on repo permissions; role based is much simpler.
If that's easier, it seems fine to me.
If repos == community, TU If repos > community, Developer else, Other ??
This was more trouble than expected because some idiot had made the Fellows and Developers templates all generic and I had to separate them a bit. However, it is done. I ended up going the the Roles test because I was too lazy to figure out how to design the repos query. I noticed Xyne did not have his Roles set to Trusted User, so I have edited that, I'm not sure if there are other TUs or not. Dusty
Dusty Phillips schrieb:
This was more trouble than expected because some idiot had made the Fellows and Developers templates all generic and I had to separate them a bit. However, it is done. I ended up going the the Roles test because I was too lazy to figure out how to design the repos query. I noticed Xyne did not have his Roles set to Trusted User, so I have edited that, I'm not sure if there are other TUs or not.
Why don't you just make a flag in the database that says where they belong? IMO, that's better than some magic string-matching.
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 21:03, Thomas Bächler<thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Dusty Phillips schrieb:
This was more trouble than expected because some idiot had made the Fellows and Developers templates all generic and I had to separate them a bit. However, it is done. I ended up going the the Roles test because I was too lazy to figure out how to design the repos query. I noticed Xyne did not have his Roles set to Trusted User, so I have edited that, I'm not sure if there are other TUs or not.
Why don't you just make a flag in the database that says where they belong? IMO, that's better than some magic string-matching.
String-matching is stupid because it does not reflect the real situation. There is official list of TUs (on the wiki) and official list of devs (old developers page, flyspray group). Only that information should be used, adding it on db level sounds like the way to go. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
2009/8/24 Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@gmail.com>:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 21:03, Thomas Bächler<thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Dusty Phillips schrieb:
This was more trouble than expected because some idiot had made the Fellows and Developers templates all generic and I had to separate them a bit. However, it is done. I ended up going the the Roles test because I was too lazy to figure out how to design the repos query. I noticed Xyne did not have his Roles set to Trusted User, so I have edited that, I'm not sure if there are other TUs or not.
Why don't you just make a flag in the database that says where they belong? IMO, that's better than some magic string-matching.
String-matching is stupid because it does not reflect the real situation. There is official list of TUs (on the wiki) and official list of devs (old developers page, flyspray group). Only that information should be used, adding it on db level sounds like the way to go.
I think you misunderstand what is currently going on. The data IS in the database on the Roles field. The only thing missing is validation on that field to ensure Aaron doesn't enter the wrong text. Since its Aaron entering the text and not some random idiot from the general public, I'm not going to make a big deal out of validating it. Another option, for anyone interested in patching it, would be to add the users to groups and select the proper list from that. OR you could paint the bikeshed blue. It works now, the number of people entered into this list is typically pretty low, and I have a whole shitload of bug reports that I could be addressing instead, if only I could view them. Dusty
2009/8/24 Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org>:
Dusty Phillips schrieb:
This was more trouble than expected because some idiot had made the Fellows and Developers templates all generic and I had to separate them a bit. However, it is done. I ended up going the the Roles test because I was too lazy to figure out how to design the repos query. I noticed Xyne did not have his Roles set to Trusted User, so I have edited that, I'm not sure if there are other TUs or not.
Why don't you just make a flag in the database that says where they belong? IMO, that's better than some magic string-matching.
It would make sense to make the Roles field into a drop-down list by putting choices on the model, but I did the quickest fix available. Patches always welcome. Dusty
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Dusty Phillips<dusty@linux.ca> wrote:
2009/8/24 Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org>:
Dusty Phillips schrieb:
This was more trouble than expected because some idiot had made the Fellows and Developers templates all generic and I had to separate them a bit. However, it is done. I ended up going the the Roles test because I was too lazy to figure out how to design the repos query. I noticed Xyne did not have his Roles set to Trusted User, so I have edited that, I'm not sure if there are other TUs or not.
Why don't you just make a flag in the database that says where they belong? IMO, that's better than some magic string-matching.
It would make sense to make the Roles field into a drop-down list by putting choices on the model, but I did the quickest fix available. Patches always welcome.
Dusty
you missed Chris Brannon. he should be in the TU list ;-) Ronald
2009/8/24 Ronald van Haren <pressh@gmail.com>:
you missed Chris Brannon. he should be in the TU list ;-)
Thanks, Fixed! Dusty
participants (7)
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Aaron Griffin
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Andreas Radke
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Dieter Plaetinck
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Dusty Phillips
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Roman Kyrylych
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Ronald van Haren
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Thomas Bächler