On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Dusty Phillips wrote:

2009/1/12 Dale Blount :

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I think we have two options here: * We completely get rid of gtk and all packages which depend on it. * We allow xmms back into extra

I'm fine with either one, but I do think it'd be silly not to move xmms to extra based on the usage stats

I'm also fine either way, but remember, installed != used. I have xmms installed on both my workstations,

Ageed. I have xmms installed because its a dep for one of my quod libet plugins. I accidentally opened it the other day and was surprised to find it installed. ;-)

Also: if xmms has a high enough usage to be in extra, I assume gtk's usage stats are even higher. So whatever arguments for keeping/discarding xmms based on statistics will also apply to gtk.

Dusty

gtk has a usage of 55.82 %. If we remove gtk, we'll also need to remove pacaackages such as imlib which is a depends for stuff like fvwm and icewm. It makes more sense to keep gtk in extra and to move xmms in extra. BTW, the new bluez package in testing depends on glib. So removing gtk but keeping glib in extra doesn't make much sense either. As for xmms popularity, the community package has 90 votes so there is definitely interest in it.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Allan McRae wrote:

Eric Bélanger wrote:

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On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Dusty Phillips wrote:

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2009/1/12 Dale Blount :

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I think we have two options here: * We completely get rid of gtk and all packages which depend on it. * We allow xmms back into extra

I'm fine with either one, but I do think it'd be silly not to move xmms to extra based on the usage stats

I'm also fine either way, but remember, installed != used. I have xmms installed on both my workstations,

Ageed. I have xmms installed because its a dep for one of my quod libet plugins. I accidentally opened it the other day and was surprised to find it installed. ;-)

Also: if xmms has a high enough usage to be in extra, I assume gtk's usage stats are even higher. So whatever arguments for keeping/discarding xmms based on statistics will also apply to gtk.

Dusty

gtk has a usage of 55.82 %. If we remove gtk, we'll also need to remove pacaackages such as imlib which is a depends for stuff like fvwm and icewm. It makes more sense to keep gtk in extra and to move xmms in extra.

BTW, the new bluez package in testing depends on glib. So removing gtk but keeping glib in extra doesn't make much sense either.

I think that is a bug: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12723

FYI: I had to do a couple of fixes to xmms including a security patch so I just pushed it to extra as everyone seemed to be neutral about it.