Hi all, I just updated KDE to 4.1.2. Among upstream bugfixes those packages should fix problems with missing icons of KDE apps in Gnome's menu and missing mim-types which results in non working java plugin for example. The archlinux-menu is shown in its own categorie now and most apps depend on kdebase-runtime now. This should solve the problems people had when using some kde apps from inside Gnome for example. I also added a group of packages called kde-extragear containing the following: guidance-power-manager kcoloredit kfax kgrab kgraphviewer kiconedit kio_gopher kmldonkey konq-plugins kopete-cryptography kpovmodeler skanlite Those packages are released with every KDE update but are (no more) part of the KDE core distribution. The next KDE release will have an kde-l10n group which makes it easy to install all localizations. A note for those who wonder why this release is not announced at kde.org: KDE-4.1.2 was tagged in svn at Septembre 24th and source tarbals were available since 25th. The official announcement will be next week. The delay is used to give all the distros and other platform maintainers time to build those packages; and of course to find some last minute build problems. Or in other words: No that's no unoffical pre-release or RC etc.. However there might be a new release of kdegraphics due to doname bump which might not be wanted within a bugfix release. That change was made to be able to build digikam on KDE-4.1; so that change might be delayed till 4.2. Anyway: Most people are not affected by this. Greetings, Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre@jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de