Hi, 1. I think it would better to move the following packages and their dependencies to [staging] first, and create a todo list for the necessary rebuilds: - evolution-data-server - gnome-desktop - js/js185 - libgee/libgee06 - libtracker-sparql 2. I'll maintain gnome-applets, gnome-media, gnome-panel, gnome-screensaver and metacity (maybe notification-daemon and polkit-gnome also) in the [community] repository for a while, if they removed from [extra]. -- György Balló Trusted User 2013/4/8 Ionut Biru

On 04/08/2013 01:34 AM, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote:

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Salve, citizens!

I think we're ready to push GNOME 3.8 into [testing], so our TUs can start doing the necessary [community] updates.

What to do (from memory): - Move contents of [gnome-unstable] to [testing] - Get [community-testing] updates going. This affects IIRC packages using libgee and js, since they received major upgrades. If possible, upgrade to the current versions, else move depends to the legacy libgee06 and js185. - Stabilize in [testing]. Move to [extra]. - Drop gnome-games, got split. Drop gcalctool, got renamed. - Look into dropping as many legacy GNOME packages from [extra] as we can, such as metacity, gnome-panel, gnome-screensaver, gnome-games-extra-data, gnome-applets, gnome-themes-extra. Maybe more, if we want to purge old stuff and demote it to [community] or the AUR.

I probably forgot something. Reminders? Objections?

do eeeeett -- Ionuț

On 04/08/2013 02:53 PM, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote:

Am 08.04.2013 13:28 schrieb "Balló György" :

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Hi,

1. I think it would better to move the following packages and their dependencies to [staging] first, and create a todo list for the necessary rebuilds: - evolution-data-server - gnome-desktop - js/js185 - libgee/libgee06 - libtracker-sparql

Our repository hierarchy doesn't allow that. [gnome-unstable] and [staging] do not interact. Todo list is a good idea, though.

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2. I'll maintain gnome-applets, gnome-media, gnome-panel, gnome-screensaver and metacity (maybe notification-daemon and polkit-gnome also) in the [community] repository for a while, if they removed from [extra].

Thanks. I at least wanted to keep the latter two, as they're still useful stand-alone (gnome-shell implements their interfaces,) but I like having the legacy stuff in [community], at most.

I don't really like the idea of having legacy stuff in community. They are unsupported upstream and should be dropped. -- Ionuț

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote:

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote:

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Am 08.04.2013 13:28 schrieb "Balló György" :

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Hi,

1. I think it would better to move the following packages and their dependencies to [staging] first, and create a todo list for the necessary rebuilds: - evolution-data-server - gnome-desktop - js/js185 - libgee/libgee06 - libtracker-sparql

Our repository hierarchy doesn't allow that. [gnome-unstable] and [staging] do not interact. Todo list is a good idea, though.

I'm going to move all of [gnome-unstable] to [staging] now, so we can do the rebuilds.

Current problems: Cinnamon incompatible; would need a lot of patching. I think the decision was to remove it until upstream catches up. GNOME 3.8 also provides "classic" mode now, which may appease some people. Alexandre? Packages: cinnamon, cinnamon-screensaver, cinnamon-control-center, muffin, nemo gnome-phone-manager incompatible. I think this thing is legacy anyway. Probably gets removed. JGC? ubuntuone-client-gnome incompatible. Seems the GSD plugin needs patching. György? See https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=5149940c0a51b3...

I hope that this packages are not blocking gnome 3.8. If they do not work now, they should be dropped.

I agree about dropping cinnamon because it is impossible to work with Linux Mint projects. They work with what they have instead of what is coming. So now we have this gnome 3.8 problem, and then we would have gnome 3.10 problems. We can't work with their packages. Even If we get to work cinnamon all patch up, doesn't matter, they won't merge any commit until ubuntu has gnome 3.* in their repos and Arch Linux would almost be making a fork xD 2013/4/9 Ionut Biru

On 04/09/2013 10:52 PM, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote:

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On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote:

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On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote:

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Am 08.04.2013 13:28 schrieb "Balló György" :

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Hi,

1. I think it would better to move the following packages and their dependencies to [staging] first, and create a todo list for the

necessary

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rebuilds: - evolution-data-server - gnome-desktop - js/js185 - libgee/libgee06 - libtracker-sparql

Our repository hierarchy doesn't allow that. [gnome-unstable] and [staging] do not interact. Todo list is a good idea, though.

I'm going to move all of [gnome-unstable] to [staging] now, so we can do the rebuilds.

Current problems:

Cinnamon incompatible; would need a lot of patching. I think the decision was to remove it until upstream catches up. GNOME 3.8 also provides "classic" mode now, which may appease some people. Alexandre? Packages: cinnamon, cinnamon-screensaver, cinnamon-control-center, muffin, nemo

I hope that this packages are not blocking gnome 3.8. If they do not work now, they should be dropped.

Also, I don't even understand why we have this fork in our repos.

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gnome-phone-manager incompatible. I think this thing is legacy anyway. Probably gets removed. JGC?

ubuntuone-client-gnome incompatible. Seems the GSD plugin needs patching. György? See https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=5149940c0a51b3...

-- Ionuț