[arch-dev-public] ttf-ms-fonts (WAS: Re: [pacman-dev] [PATCH] New feature: files verification)
Eric Bélanger schrieb:
I added this because of some fonts package which has files in /tmp. If a package has files in /tmp, it should be reported here, as it is definitely a bug in the package! It is not pacman's responsibility to fix this, but the packager's.
I guess he's talking about ttf-ms-fonts. The files that initially get installed in /tmp are extracted/installed properly afterwards by the .install script. I'm not sure why this is done but it might be a license restriction.
That package has no place in Arch anyway. It's non-free, unnecessary and improperly packaged. There are good alternatives (ttf-freefont should be okay, also the standard Xorg fonts are enough IMO). AUR has a proper package for this, so people who need it can build that. I say we drop it, as it does not meet Arch's packaging standards.
Am Montag, 30. März 2009 12:17:07 schrieb Thomas Bächler:
I say we drop it, as it does not meet Arch's packaging standards.
Yes, if we cannot package it the way we want, lets drop it. -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre@jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:
Am Montag, 30. März 2009 12:17:07 schrieb Thomas Bächler:
I say we drop it, as it does not meet Arch's packaging standards.
Yes, if we cannot package it the way we want, lets drop it.
Can we confirm that things look "nice" without these fonts? I remember fonts being terribly ugly way back when without this package.
Aaron Griffin schrieb:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:
Am Montag, 30. März 2009 12:17:07 schrieb Thomas Bächler:
I say we drop it, as it does not meet Arch's packaging standards. Yes, if we cannot package it the way we want, lets drop it.
Can we confirm that things look "nice" without these fonts? I remember fonts being terribly ugly way back when without this package.
Does that mean you actually have them installed?
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Aaron Griffin schrieb:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:
Am Montag, 30. März 2009 12:17:07 schrieb Thomas Bächler:
I say we drop it, as it does not meet Arch's packaging standards.
Yes, if we cannot package it the way we want, lets drop it.
Can we confirm that things look "nice" without these fonts? I remember fonts being terribly ugly way back when without this package.
Does that mean you actually have them installed?
Probably. This system is older... I'll uninstall them when I get home and see if I notice any negative effects
Am Montag, 30. März 2009 23:57:44 schrieb Aaron Griffin:
Probably. This system is older... I'll uninstall them when I get home and see if I notice any negative effects
So, what is our decision about this? I don't have any problems without those fonts and I rather like to have a valid pkgbuild in aur than a creepy one in extra. -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre@jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:
Am Montag, 30. März 2009 23:57:44 schrieb Aaron Griffin:
Probably. This system is older... I'll uninstall them when I get home and see if I notice any negative effects
So, what is our decision about this? I don't have any problems without those fonts and I rather like to have a valid pkgbuild in aur than a creepy one in extra.
I've been going strong without the MS fonts. I'd be fine with removing then, but don't take this as a decision. Should we vote?
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
That package has no place in Arch anyway. It's non-free, unnecessary and improperly packaged. There are good alternatives (ttf-freefont should be okay, also the standard Xorg fonts are enough IMO). AUR has a proper package for this, so people who need it can build that.
I say we drop it, as it does not meet Arch's packaging standards.
I certainly can't argue about the non-freeness of this package and though I currently maintain it, I would be just fine if we moved it to AUR--I do need these fonts, but I've had copies in ~/.fonts for ages and don't require the package at all. If we can get some confirmation that the application we do provide via extra will continue to operate without it, then I've no problem bumping it to AUR/Community.
participants (4)
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Aaron Griffin
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Pierre Schmitz
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Thayer Williams
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Thomas Bächler