[arch-dev-public] libreoffice-still install messages
I think something needs adjusting between the new package name and the package install/update scripts, because I got blasted with install messages that don't look relevant anymore, since the split happened long ago. (6/8) removing libreoffice-impress [-----------------------------------------------------------------------[4/1928] (7/8) removing libreoffice-sdk [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] 100% (8/8) removing libreoffice-writer [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] 100% (1/9) installing libreoffice-still-en-US [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] 100% (2/9) installing libreoffice-still-common [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] 100% * see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LibreOffice ------------------------------------------------------------------- LibreOffice has been split into several packages: - libreoffice-common - libreoffice-{base,calc,draw,impress,math,writer} - frontend applications - libreoffice-{gnome,kde4} - desktop integration plugins - libreoffice-{sdk,sdk-doc} - add-on and doc for programming using the LibreOffice APIs and for creating extensions (UNO components). ------------------------------------------------------------------- * you need to install at least one libreoffice-langpack * you may want to pacman -Ss libreoffice-extensions to see what additional extensions are prepared to install * it's recommended to install {hunspell,mythes,hyphen}-xx pkg for spell checking * make sure you have installed some ttf font (ttf-dejavu recommended) Optional dependencies for libreoffice-still-common libreoffice-still-langpack: additional language support java-runtime: adds java support pstoedit: translates PostScript and PDF graphics into other vector formats libmythes: for use in thesaurus beanshell2: interactive java -- good for prototyping/macros vigra: C++ computer vision library, usable in Basebmp [installed] libmspack: library for Microsoft compression formats for use in FontOOo sane: for scanner access [installed] unixodbc: adds ODBC database support gst-plugins-base-libs: + some gstr-plugins to support multimedia content, e.g. in impress [installed] gtk2: for browser plugin [installed] libpaper: takes care of papersize [installed] (3/9) installing libreoffice-still-calc [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] 100% (4/9) installing libreoffice-still-draw [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] 100%
On 06/08/14 22:08, Dan McGee wrote:
I think something needs adjusting between the new package name and the package install/update scripts, because I got blasted with install messages that don't look relevant anymore, since the split happened long ago.
As an aside... why name the package libreoffice-still and not just keep libreoffice? As a user I would expect "pacman -S libreoffice" to find some form of libreoffice. Allan
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:08:36 -0500 Dan McGee <dpmcgee@gmail.com> wrote:
I think something needs adjusting between the new package name and the package install/update scripts, because I got blasted with install messages that don't look relevant anymore, since the split happened long ago.
That's something I overlooked. I'll remove it before moving packages to [extra]. -- Bartłomiej Piotrowski http://bpiotrowski.pl/
On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 22:33:30 +1000 Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org> wrote:
As an aside... why name the package libreoffice-still and not just keep libreoffice? As a user I would expect "pacman -S libreoffice" to find some form of libreoffice.
Allan
I can't really give a good answer, as I'm for keeping plain "libreoffice" too. Another possibility is "libreoffice" virtual package provided by both -still and -fresh, but I'll abstain before Andy returns. -- Bartłomiej Piotrowski http://bpiotrowski.pl/
Am Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:11:02 +0200 schrieb Bartłomiej Piotrowski <b@bpiotrowski.pl>:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 22:33:30 +1000 Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org> wrote:
As an aside... why name the package libreoffice-still and not just keep libreoffice? As a user I would expect "pacman -S libreoffice" to find some form of libreoffice.
Allan
I can't really give a good answer, as I'm for keeping plain "libreoffice" too. Another possibility is "libreoffice" virtual package provided by both -still and -fresh, but I'll abstain before Andy returns.
We can drop install messages about splitting now. Note: The splitting has been reduced in LibO 4.3 packages (currently the LibO - "fresh" branch). About the branches: LibreOffice has two releases at a time. Those are called libreoffice-fresh and libreoffice-still. "Fresh" ist the one with new features and usually with bugs many users can't accept in a production use case. The LibO community does maintain a 2nd branch called "still" for critical use cases. The "fresh" releases becomes the new "still" release when a new major "fresh" release happens after 6 months. In the past Arch shipped the "fresh" releases from .1 or .2 minor releases but they were still very fresh and sometimes a serious feature is still broken at that time. Pointing user to ABS and "patch yourself" is pretty unfair with that large package that takes ages to compile. So we went forward and ship now both branches. This will also help upstream with more users of the fresh branch and earlier bug reports from a distribution use. About the name "still": That's an upstream decision we take over. We don't want to prefer one or the other branch. So there is no more a simple "libreoffice" package. pacman -S libreoffice should force the users to decide one or the other branch. http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-Still-tt4117297.html There's some info from upstream devs about the branch naming scheme. For safety the -still branch packages will replace the old "libreoffice" packages. It's just release in the same branch LibO 4.2.5 to 4.2.6. I'll put a note about the new -fresh branch into the new -still install msg. -Andy -Andy
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Allan McRae
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Andreas Radke
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Bartłomiej Piotrowski
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Dan McGee