[arch-dev-public] pidgin maintainer wanted/where is pizzapunk?
several devs have bumped Pidgin in last few months because its maintainer "pizzapunk" is absent for months now and never giving any words in our discussions. we should find a new maintainer for this application. it's widely used in our community. I myself don't want to do this work. the new packager should think about moving in farsight2 from community to extra for adding video/audio support. but user feedback is still showing poor quality of that implementation (fedora also has it enabled in their devel tree). anybody interested? on the other site we should send again a ping out to all devs asking if they are still aboard. Alex(kth5) is also absent for years now and maybe more guys have silently left us. -Andy
on the other site we should send again a ping out to all devs asking if they are still aboard. Alex(kth5) is also absent for years now and maybe more guys have silently left us.
I've been thinking about this a fair bit lately. I'd like to suggest that we implement some kind of 'minimum contribution thresholds'. If you don't maintain X packages or update within X days or respond to bug reports (if we had them) within X days or close them within X days, you're off the team. Obviously we'd probably have a coupla strikes approach and some warnings and some protocol to allow people to deliberately take time off for vacation or because they just need a break. And people can always come back. This would solve two problems: 1) People that don't contribute anymore wouldn't be in our dev list and we'd know how many people are *really* contributing. This would make new 'hire' decisions easier. 2) People who are trying to contribute but just don't feel like they can keep up start to feel guilty for their lack of output. This would tell them just how much they "should" be contributing so they can more easily make decisions about quitting. Dusty
I dislike to count how much somebody contributes. Some have a very small but more important role. How about a simple monthly "ping" mail Aaron would send on each 1st day of the month. Next month a small summary would be in the beginning of the next mail saying "everybody responded" or "xxx is missing". The missing people without an excuse would get a warning/reminder mail to anser within the next month and one month later we could them move to the Fellows list. Simple but should keep us informed about the true resources we have. -Andy
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Andreas Radke<a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
I dislike to count how much somebody contributes. Some have a very small but more important role.
How about a simple monthly "ping" mail Aaron would send on each 1st day of the month. Next month a small summary would be in the beginning of the next mail saying "everybody responded" or "xxx is missing". The missing people without an excuse would get a warning/reminder mail to anser within the next month and one month later we could them move to the Fellows list.
Simple but should keep us informed about the true resources we have.
This sounds like a good idea to me. We will begin in September. Anyone who doesn't respond in two months will be marked as inactive with all accounts disabled
2009/8/24 Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de>:
I dislike to count how much somebody contributes. Some have a very small but more important role.
I'm pretty sure I'd be eliminated by my own criteria... but I've been questioning my contribution level anyway. ;-)
How about a simple monthly "ping" mail Aaron would send on each 1st day of the month. Next month a small summary would be in the beginning of the next mail saying "everybody responded" or "xxx is missing". The missing people without an excuse would get a warning/reminder mail to anser within the next month and one month later we could them move to the Fellows list.
I like this idea too, BUT it doesn't help with people who'll respond but not actually do anything. (me, for example, or my favourite Archer, Simo). It'd be a good start though, and maybe the reminder e-mails would help the rest of us get our asses in gear. Dusty
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Dusty Phillips<dusty@linux.ca> wrote:
2009/8/24 Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de>:
I dislike to count how much somebody contributes. Some have a very small but more important role.
I'm pretty sure I'd be eliminated by my own criteria... but I've been questioning my contribution level anyway. ;-)
How about a simple monthly "ping" mail Aaron would send on each 1st day of the month. Next month a small summary would be in the beginning of the next mail saying "everybody responded" or "xxx is missing". The missing people without an excuse would get a warning/reminder mail to anser within the next month and one month later we could them move to the Fellows list.
I like this idea too, BUT it doesn't help with people who'll respond but not actually do anything. (me, for example, or my favourite Archer, Simo). It'd be a good start though, and maybe the reminder e-mails would help the rest of us get our asses in gear.
Yeah, I'll make sure that people actually do something each month as well. Just responding is not enough
Am Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:15:56 +0200 schrieb Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de>:
several devs have bumped Pidgin in last few months because its maintainer "pizzapunk" is absent for months now and never giving any words in our discussions.
we should find a new maintainer for this application. it's widely used in our community. I myself don't want to do this work. the new packager should think about moving in farsight2 from community to extra for adding video/audio support. but user feedback is still showing poor quality of that implementation (fedora also has it enabled in their devel tree). anybody interested?
on the other site we should send again a ping out to all devs asking if they are still aboard. Alex(kth5) is also absent for years now and maybe more guys have silently left us.
-Andy
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16215 nobody interested? it would be a glory to drop this pkg out of our supported repos. I could just bump it once more and fix the pending dependency bug but I don't want to do the splitting and maintenance for a longer time. -Andy
2009/9/21, Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de>:
I could just bump it once more and fix the pending dependency bug but I don't want to do the splitting and maintenance for a longer time.
I can help you, I also could just bump it, but I don't want to maintain that package. -- Arch Linux Developer http://www.archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.it
2009/9/21 Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de>:
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16215
nobody interested? it would be a glory to drop this pkg out of our supported repos.
I could just bump it once more and fix the pending dependency bug but I don't want to do the splitting and maintenance for a longer time.
-Andy
sorry for the late reply. I am interested to maintain Pidgin, but I am more busy in these days with my University and I will go on Milan on Thursday. So when I will come back (30th September) if no one else want to adopt it I will. -- Andrea `bash` Scarpino Arch Linux Developer
participants (5)
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Aaron Griffin
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Andrea Scarpino
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Andreas Radke
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Dusty Phillips
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Giovanni Scafora