Dan McGee wrote:

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Eduardo Romero wrote:

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Well, I have been in discussion with Andreas Radke about the JRE and JDK packages. Here is the thing, they are both greatly outdated, they are at u7 when the latest is u10, both have a pending bug and a pending feature request, and both have no maintainer.

I can't take on neither of them, since I don't need them, so I won't test them after upgrade and bug fixing. The bug that needs fixing is a very easy one to fix, so no problem from that way, is just the time which is the problem.

Now, we have an option, should we keep it in extra where some developer in search of an orphan to adopt for his collection can take care of it, or should we move it to Community/AUR?

Looks like no developers are really expressing interest in this. Java seems like a pretty important package to have in the official repos, but if no one is willing to maintain it we have ourselves a problem.

Is there a TU that is willing to take these packages on for community?

I'll take these to keep them in extra, if nobody else does. I know I rely on them. I'll give it a week and then adopt. - P

Eduardo Romero wrote:

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 09:10 -0400, Paul Mattal wrote:

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Looks like no developers are really expressing interest in this. Java seems like a pretty important package to have in the official repos, but if no one is willing to maintain it we have ourselves a problem.

Is there a TU that is willing to take these packages on for community? I'll take these to keep them in extra, if nobody else does. I know I rely on them. I'll give it a week and then adopt.

- P

Geoffroy Carrier is a TU and wants to take them, as far as I understood from his personal email to me. But well, I do understand the importance of this packages in extra, I just am concerned for the quality and maintenance of the packages, when no developer has real interest in them. Also, I was pointed out in the discussion I had with Andreas, that openjdk6 is the future. And is what we want to support.

But well, the discussion can still go on here. So just tell me what is it going to be? There is one user that would gladly take them to community. But the point of maintaining them in extra is valid as well.

You know, I think it's more in the spirit of the thing to let Geoffroy take them. The person with the desire is likely to do a better job. I'm fine with letting them go to community if others are. If I still find them in extra after the week, I'll adopt them-- or at least update them one-time until we sort out the longer term. - P

tomcat is using openjdk6 now, so i think jre is ready to be moved. -- Hugo

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Eduardo Romero wrote:

On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 19:39 -0300, Hugo Doria wrote:

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tomcat is using openjdk6 now, so i think jre is ready to be moved.

-- Hugo Still waiting on eclipse, it needs to be upgraded and have the jdk dependency removed and the openjdk6 dependency added. Thanks man.

Why on earth didn't we make a provides for this a while ago? I thought we had done that. I feel like openjdk should provide 'jdk' at the least, no? -Dan

On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 20:44 -0400, Paul Mattal wrote:

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Why on earth didn't we make a provides for this a while ago? I thought we had done that.

I feel like openjdk should provide 'jdk' at the least, no?

Yep, it does proved jdk and jre as Paul explaings, but in the case of new installs, eclipse asks for jdk as a dependency, so the user with a new install with no java packages installed will get a dependency on jdk and not openjdk6.

I'm fairly sure we do. It's called "java-environment". The runtime is "java-runtime".

So openjdk provides "java-environment" which it already does.

Eclipse for a long time required actual Sun jre to be built and was tested with that. Now that it's being tested with openjdk6, it seems like the reasonable time to make the switch to the new dependency. So I'm planning to do that this weekend.

- P

Thanks Paul, I'm just waiting on this to amek the move.

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Eduardo Romero wrote:

Hi,

An update on the situation, Geoffroy Carrier already is maintaining jre and jdk over community now. The jre and jdk packages in extra are gone by now, or supposed to be in the next mirror sync. All the packages in extra that depended on jre or jdk were upgraded accordingly, so we are clear in that matter as well.

Maybe an official news item should be posted, just enlighten me on this matter, if it is needed, I'll make one.

Sure go ahead and post one so people know that openjdk supplants the old sun stuff

On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 17:52 -0500, Eric Belanger wrote:

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Eduardo Romero wrote:

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Hi,

An update on the situation, Geoffroy Carrier already is maintaining jre and jdk over community now. The jre and jdk packages in extra are gone by now, or supposed to be in the next mirror sync.

You forgot to remove them for x86_64.

Yeah, I tend to forget we are the same, so I have leave my prejudice against the x64 people. LOL.