Hi Gang, I maintained the courier* packages for a long time and I still think it is a very solid mail server suite. I was using it happyly on my own server but recently fell for a tarmail/dovecot combination. Abandoning the usage of courier makes it harder to maintain the package, which is rather complex. I understand that courier-imap is a very popular imap/pop solution and should stay in extra as it is one of the big three(dovecot,courier, cyrus) used in production environments. Courier-MTA is a complete suite consisting of courier-imap, courier-maildorp an ESMTP server (hence the name courier-mta) a webconfiguration frontend etc. I still think it is a very capable solution, technically on par with exim or postfix based deployments. But it is not as popular, probably because the learning curve, just like for every other MTA, is rather steep. However, it will need an active maintainer who stays uptodate with the development. That pretty much means you have to use it yourself. Anyone who wants to take that package? I also will put all my knowledge into the wiki where my old little setup is explained. I'll need to update it though. I will also answer any questions another potential maintainer has. If nobody wants to take it, I say let's keep courier-authlib, maildrop and imap and let courier-mta go to community. I'm also open to other solutions. Cheers, -T