Am Freitag, 25. Januar 2008 03:10:28 schrieb Thayer Williams:

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If anybody wants to have a go with the white logo, you can grab the ppm version here:

Wouldn't it be better to have a logo with colors? Most users have a highcolor fb anyway. btw: afaik Gimp can export as ppm directly. Hi I am fine with any logo, please just provide me 3 files as i need them.

Am Freitag, 25. Januar 2008 schrieb Pierre Schmitz: thanks greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa@archlinux.org

Friday 25 January 2008, Thayer Williams wrote: | On Jan 25, 2008 12:53 AM PST, Tobias Powalowski wrote: | > Hi | > I am fine with any logo, please just provide me 3 files as i | > need them. thanks | > greetings | > tpowa | | All three versions of the kernel logo are available here: | | http://dev.archlinux.org/~thayer/art/kernel/archer-80x80-white/ | | I am not able to test the vga16 or monochrome versions, but it | looks to me like we're not even building the kernel with support | for these formats. For example, the kernel config in abs says: | | # CONFIG_FB_VGA16 is not set | CONFIG_FB_VESA=y | | The CONFIG_FBCON_MFB flag (for monochrome support) appears to be | missing entirely. | | Anyway, the new logos are 80x80, adhering to the default tux | dimensions. | | Let me know if you guys have any questions or requests. | | Cheers hi Thayer, hi Tobias, hi all, i've made the 224 and 16 colour logo file for the kernel26 in colour (yours is white, i would say that if we have colours and the logo is in colour, we should use them - you agree?) and have tested both. they work, Tobias, you can find them here for replacement of the old logo in kernel26: http://dev.archlinux.org/~damir/temp/new_logo/ with the mono logo i have serious trouble: i cannot make the new logo look nice in 1-bit space, it has edges and slopes that are hard to show nicely in 120 x 120 px without aesthetic errors. but as the monochrome framebuffer is anyway not built, i would not see this as something urgent. @Tobias: feel free to replace the old logo by the new one have a nice weekend you all, Damir -- .·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´ ° ° ° ° ° ° ><((((º> ° ° ° ° ° <º)))>< <º)))><

Saturday 26 January 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote: | Uh, hold the phone here. I thought we explicitly brought Thayer on | as our resident graphics guy. he might be the graphics guy, i just took his logo and pre-packed it for the kernel26 pkg. no manipulation on the logo itself and the technical process is only technical, not at all artistic. - D -- .·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´ ° ° ° ° ° ° ><((((º> ° ° ° ° ° <º)))>< <º)))><

On 1/25/08, Damir Perisa wrote:

hi Thayer,

Friday 25 January 2008, Thayer Williams wrote: | My method for making the kernel logo: | 1. Extract a png from the svg sources | 2. Resize and optimize the colour depth with GIMP/Fireworks | 3. Use pngtopnm (after patching our netpbm package) | 4. Use pnmtoplainpnm to finish it off

i use the following:

1 export png in inkscape 2 flatten image (gimp) 3 gaussian blur ~=1/100 of image width = pixel (120px final wide pic has 1.2 px gaussian blur - makes it easier to dither sharp edges later) 4 resize to 120x120 px 5 put in indexed colourspace, use FS dithering 6 export image to ppm respectively to pbm 7 build kernel to test it (i'm compiling right now)

| I didn't realize there was so much passion behind the inclusion of | a framebuffer logo; it's on my screen for all of about 20 seconds.

humans can find passion behind anything - even breathing and sex.

| I see a number of aesthetic problems with using such a logo, and | they are as follows: | | 1. Limited use of colour makes it less than ideal for 'fancy | graphics'

any good fancy graphics can be showed under limits if the technique used is optimal. after all, a logo is made in black/white, grey and outline versions only because of this reasons - to be able to simplify it and put it somewhere else as an element.

ascii art may even be considered also fancy:

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| 2. Users must customize their fb to be widescreen and | like someone else pointed out, 1680x1050 and other widescreen | resolutions are not supported even when customized.

users must customize their computer to enable fb anyway. default arch is not using fb, so when they do so, they should do it right.

| 3. The icon is fairly small and limiting in its scope

the icon is just a symbol, not a poster presentation in 32bit colourspace. it stands for one cpu and is originally a penguin. we replace it for our logo because we like symbols to be arch-shaped.

viva la archisation! viva el arch!

lolwut? This thread, and this post in particular..... lets just say i had a bout of face-palm-itus this morning.

Friday 25 January 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote: | On Jan 24, 2008 8:10 PM, Thayer Williams wrote: | > Thursday 24 January 2008, Damir Perisa wrote: | > > we ARE having the arch logo in the kernel replacing the linux | > > 2.0 pinguin (i made it). so i'm not getting the point in | > > discussing if we want it or not. its just that somebody has to | > > transform the new logo to the kernel-usable formats and | > > rebuild the kernel. quite easy if you have the logo in good | > > enough quality (or svg). | > | > My apologies Damir, I wasn't aware that a final decision had | > been made yet. | | To be clear here, Damir overstepped his bounds. No final decision | was made i did not decide anything. the logo was in the kernel26 pkg replacing the penguin since years. i was just stating that, as we have another, new official logo that we decided on, we should replace the old with the new anyway now. THEN we can discuss matters of removing things and adding things and changing anything. hostility goes up, motivation down have a nice evening - D -- .·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´ ° ° ° ° ° ° ><((((º> ° ° ° ° ° <º)))>< <º)))><

Friday 25 January 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote: | On Jan 25, 2008 11:54 AM, Damir Perisa wrote: | > i did not decide anything. the logo was in the kernel26 pkg | > replacing the penguin since years. i was just stating that | | Then I apologize. The wording seems more like... "we will do this" | instead of "we are doing this" to me. I read it as more of a | demand. Sorry for misinterpreting. ah ok ... no problem, sorry for my english - will be more exact next time :) have a nice weekend, - D -- .·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´ ° ° ° ° ° ° ><((((º> ° ° ° ° ° <º)))>< <º)))><