[arch-dev-public] commits ML for community repo
Hi, Could one of the admins setup a ML for the commits of the community andcommunity-testing repos? Several people including myself would find it useful as we already have one for core/extra/testing. Thanks, Eric
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Could one of the admins setup a ML for the commits of the community andcommunity-testing repos? Several people including myself would find it useful as we already have one for core/extra/testing.
Would anyone have an issue with just adding those commits to the existing ML? It's already very spammy, I don't think it could hurt much
On 13/10/2009, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote: Would anyone have an issue with just adding those commits to the existing ML? It's already very spammy, I don't think it could hurt much Yes, I also think this is a good solution. Add they to arch-commits!
-- Andrea `bash` Scarpino Arch Linux Developer
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Could one of the admins setup a ML for the commits of the community andcommunity-testing repos? Several people including myself would find it useful as we already have one for core/extra/testing.
Would anyone have an issue with just adding those commits to the existing ML? It's already very spammy, I don't think it could hurt much
I thought that maybe TU wouldn't be interested in the core/extra commits but I guess if you're interested in the community commits, you'll also be interested in the core/extra ones. So one list is good.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Could one of the admins setup a ML for the commits of the community andcommunity-testing repos? Several people including myself would find it useful as we already have one for core/extra/testing.
Would anyone have an issue with just adding those commits to the existing ML? It's already very spammy, I don't think it could hurt much
I thought that maybe TU wouldn't be interested in the core/extra commits but I guess if you're interested in the community commits, you'll also be interested in the core/extra ones. So one list is good.
It also makes it easier for me. I won't have to make a new mailman list, which always seems to fail the first time, or become read-only, or something crazy like that.
Eric Bélanger schrieb:
I thought that maybe TU wouldn't be interested in the core/extra commits but I guess if you're interested in the community commits, you'll also be interested in the core/extra ones. So one list is good.
Wouldn't it make more sense to set up a commits RSS where everyone can choose what he wants, rather than have so many different lists? I vote for one list for all, the posts should be named such that one can easily filter what is needed.
On 13/10/2009, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
I vote for one list for all, the posts should be named such that one can easily filter what is needed. +1. We should add [$repo] in subject
-- Andrea `bash` Scarpino Arch Linux Developer
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Andrea Scarpino <andrea@archlinux.org> wrote:
On 13/10/2009, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
I vote for one list for all, the posts should be named such that one can easily filter what is needed. +1. We should add [$repo] in subject
This is very very hard to do with our current setup. Right now, I filter like so in gmail: Matches: listid:"arch-commits.archlinux.org" Do this: Skip Inbox, Apply label "arch-commits" Matches: listid:"arch-commits.archlinux.org" -{subject:/trunk} Do this: Mark as read This cuts down on the unread count. You could also filter on "repos/extra" or "repos/core" if you like, but adding it any other way is going to be hard
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Eric Bélanger schrieb:
I thought that maybe TU wouldn't be interested in the core/extra commits but I guess if you're interested in the community commits, you'll also be interested in the core/extra ones. So one list is good.
Wouldn't it make more sense to set up a commits RSS where everyone can choose what he wants, rather than have so many different lists?
I vote for one list for all, the posts should be named such that one can easily filter what is needed.
If you propose a tool that will turn SVN commits into an RSS feed, I will gladly set it up. As far as I know, they're not going to be as easy to use as you'd like here (with the picking and choosing part). Example: http://eds.activemath.org/en/node/209
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Eric Bélanger schrieb:
I thought that maybe TU wouldn't be interested in the core/extra commits but I guess if you're interested in the community commits, you'll also be interested in the core/extra ones. So one list is good.
Wouldn't it make more sense to set up a commits RSS where everyone can choose what he wants, rather than have so many different lists?
I vote for one list for all, the posts should be named such that one can easily filter what is needed.
If you propose a tool that will turn SVN commits into an RSS feed, I will gladly set it up. As far as I know, they're not going to be as easy to use as you'd like here (with the picking and choosing part).
Here's an idea. Considering we no longer have CVS repos displayed on repos.archlinux.org, we could switch to an SVN only web viewer that supports this. http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN&
Aaron Griffin schrieb:
If you propose a tool that will turn SVN commits into an RSS feed, I will gladly set it up. As far as I know, they're not going to be as easy to use as you'd like here (with the picking and choosing part).
Here's an idea. Considering we no longer have CVS repos displayed on repos.archlinux.org, we could switch to an SVN only web viewer that supports this. http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN&
Looks good. I can try to set it up as a test vhost (unless someone else wants to do it before tomorrow night), but someone else will have to do the theming/templates for the Arch design.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Aaron Griffin schrieb:
If you propose a tool that will turn SVN commits into an RSS feed, I will gladly set it up. As far as I know, they're not going to be as easy to use as you'd like here (with the picking and choosing part).
Here's an idea. Considering we no longer have CVS repos displayed on repos.archlinux.org, we could switch to an SVN only web viewer that supports this. http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN&
Looks good. I can try to set it up as a test vhost (unless someone else wants to do it before tomorrow night), but someone else will have to do the theming/templates for the Arch design.
I could copy it pretty easy, I assume. I did the originals for mailman and repos.archlinux.org simply by copying from the main page :)
Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Eric Bélanger schrieb:
I thought that maybe TU wouldn't be interested in the core/extra commits but I guess if you're interested in the community commits, you'll also be interested in the core/extra ones. So one list is good.
Wouldn't it make more sense to set up a commits RSS where everyone can choose what he wants, rather than have so many different lists?
I vote for one list for all, the posts should be named such that one can easily filter what is needed.
If you propose a tool that will turn SVN commits into an RSS feed, I will gladly set it up. As far as I know, they're not going to be as easy to use as you'd like here (with the picking and choosing part).
Here's an idea. Considering we no longer have CVS repos displayed on repos.archlinux.org, we could switch to an SVN only web viewer that supports this. http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN&
My only concern about an RSS feed _instead_ of the mailing list is that sometimes overnight, KDE or GNOME move and there is several hundred messages. So unless the feed it is serving is very large, I would be bound to miss some. The same thing is annoying me with flyspray (10 latest bugs) although there is probably a way around that... Allan
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 00:07, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's an idea. Considering we no longer have CVS repos displayed on repos.archlinux.org, we could switch to an SVN only web viewer that supports this. http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN&
Wow, this is so much better than ViewVC! But please keep arch-commits ML (with community commits included) in addition to RSS feeds provided by WebSVN. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Roman Kyrylych schrieb:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 00:07, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's an idea. Considering we no longer have CVS repos displayed on repos.archlinux.org, we could switch to an SVN only web viewer that supports this. http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN&
Wow, this is so much better than ViewVC! But please keep arch-commits ML (with community commits included) in addition to RSS feeds provided by WebSVN.
It doesn't support splitting the index into pages apparently. I was looking for more solutions last night - there was one that even used caching for efficiency, but it had some other drawback. I found more, but discarded many of them for minor reasons. The best ones so far are: bsSvnBrowser: https://bssvnbrowser.bountysource.com/ Demo: https://bssvnbrowser.bountysource.com/svn/!tree/30 However, it uses Ruby on Rails and the installation instructions are not too good - so if you don't know rails already, you probably have no chance. svn::web: http://search.cpan.org/~nikc/SVN-Web/ Demo: http://jc.ngo.org.uk/svnweb/ Looks a lot like trac, but doesn't appear to support highlighting for file view. Arch lacks a few perl packages for this one though, but it should be easier to set up than bsSvnBrowser.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:31, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Roman Kyrylych schrieb:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 00:07, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's an idea. Considering we no longer have CVS repos displayed on repos.archlinux.org, we could switch to an SVN only web viewer that supports this. http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN&
Wow, this is so much better than ViewVC! But please keep arch-commits ML (with community commits included) in addition to RSS feeds provided by WebSVN.
It doesn't support splitting the index into pages apparently.
I don't think this is a big problem. I suppose usually people go to the SVN repo viewer through a link on package's page which points directly to its directory in SVN.
I was looking for more solutions last night - there was one that even used caching for efficiency, but it had some other drawback. I found more, but discarded many of them for minor reasons.
svn::web: http://search.cpan.org/~nikc/SVN-Web/ Demo: http://jc.ngo.org.uk/svnweb/
Looks a lot like trac, but doesn't appear to support highlighting for file view. Arch lacks a few perl packages for this one though, but it should be easier to set up than bsSvnBrowser.
Highlighting could be easily done with a javascript: http://alexgorbatchev.com/wiki/SyntaxHighlighter http://shjs.sourceforge.net/ http://softwaremaniacs.org/soft/highlight/en/ -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:31, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Roman Kyrylych schrieb:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 00:07, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's an idea. Considering we no longer have CVS repos displayed on repos.archlinux.org, we could switch to an SVN only web viewer that supports this. http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN&
Wow, this is so much better than ViewVC! But please keep arch-commits ML (with community commits included) in addition to RSS feeds provided by WebSVN.
It doesn't support splitting the index into pages apparently.
I don't think this is a big problem. I suppose usually people go to the SVN repo viewer through a link on package's page which points directly to its directory in SVN.
I think it is a rather big problem. Seems like 63 + 111 people this week have done exactly this (I know I do it all the time): dan@gudrun /var/log/httpd $ cat repos-access_log | awk '{ print $7 }' | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | tail -n 30 43 /viewvc.cgi/gnome-doc-utils/repos/ 43 /viewvc.cgi/intltool/repos/ 43 /viewvc.cgi/intltool/repos// 43 /viewvc.cgi/intltool/repos//extra-any?view=co 43 /viewvc.cgi/intltool/repos/extra-any/?view=co 45 /viewvc.cgi/kernel26/repos/ 63 / 63 /viewvc.cgi/kernel26/repos/core-i686/?root=packages 66 /viewvc.cgi/clutter/repos/extra-i686/ 66 /viewvc.cgi/clutter/repos/extra-i686/PKGBUILD?view=co 67 /viewvc.cgi/clutter/repos/ 71 /viewvc.cgi/jack-audio-connection-kit/repos/extra-i686/PKGBUILD?view=co 71 /viewvc.cgi/jack-audio-connection-kit/repos/extra-i686/jack-audio-connection-kit.conf.d?view=co 71 /viewvc.cgi/jack-audio-connection-kit/repos/extra-i686/jack-audio-connection-kit.rc.d?view=co 71 /viewvc.cgi/libsndfile/repos/extra-i686/ 71 /viewvc.cgi/libsndfile/repos/extra-i686/ChangeLog?view=co 71 /viewvc.cgi/libsndfile/repos/extra-i686/PKGBUILD?view=co 72 /viewvc.cgi/libsndfile/repos/ 73 /viewvc.cgi/jack-audio-connection-kit/repos/extra-i686/ 74 /viewvc.cgi/jack-audio-connection-kit/repos/ 111 /viewvc.cgi/ 149 /robots.txt 162 /static/images/dir.png 207 /static/images/diff.png 533 /favicon.ico 682 /static/images/log.png 960 /static/images/text.png 984 /static/images/up.png 1103 /static/images/back_small.png 1178 /static/styles.css
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Dan McGee <dpmcgee@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:31, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Roman Kyrylych schrieb:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 00:07, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's an idea. Considering we no longer have CVS repos displayed on repos.archlinux.org, we could switch to an SVN only web viewer that supports this. http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN&
Wow, this is so much better than ViewVC! But please keep arch-commits ML (with community commits included) in addition to RSS feeds provided by WebSVN.
It doesn't support splitting the index into pages apparently.
I don't think this is a big problem. I suppose usually people go to the SVN repo viewer through a link on package's page which points directly to its directory in SVN.
I think it is a rather big problem. Seems like 63 + 111 people this week have done exactly this (I know I do it all the time):
dan@gudrun /var/log/httpd $ cat repos-access_log | awk '{ print $7 }' | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | tail -n 30 43 /viewvc.cgi/gnome-doc-utils/repos/ 43 /viewvc.cgi/intltool/repos/ 43 /viewvc.cgi/intltool/repos// 43 /viewvc.cgi/intltool/repos//extra-any?view=co 43 /viewvc.cgi/intltool/repos/extra-any/?view=co 45 /viewvc.cgi/kernel26/repos/ 63 / 63 /viewvc.cgi/kernel26/repos/core-i686/?root=packages 66 /viewvc.cgi/clutter/repos/extra-i686/ 66 /viewvc.cgi/clutter/repos/extra-i686/PKGBUILD?view=co 67 /viewvc.cgi/clutter/repos/ 71 /viewvc.cgi/jack-audio-connection-kit/repos/extra-i686/PKGBUILD?view=co 71 /viewvc.cgi/jack-audio-connection-kit/repos/extra-i686/jack-audio-connection-kit.conf.d?view=co 71 /viewvc.cgi/jack-audio-connection-kit/repos/extra-i686/jack-audio-connection-kit.rc.d?view=co 71 /viewvc.cgi/libsndfile/repos/extra-i686/ 71 /viewvc.cgi/libsndfile/repos/extra-i686/ChangeLog?view=co 71 /viewvc.cgi/libsndfile/repos/extra-i686/PKGBUILD?view=co 72 /viewvc.cgi/libsndfile/repos/ 73 /viewvc.cgi/jack-audio-connection-kit/repos/extra-i686/ 74 /viewvc.cgi/jack-audio-connection-kit/repos/ 111 /viewvc.cgi/ 149 /robots.txt 162 /static/images/dir.png 207 /static/images/diff.png 533 /favicon.ico 682 /static/images/log.png 960 /static/images/text.png 984 /static/images/up.png 1103 /static/images/back_small.png 1178 /static/styles.css
I might actually discount some of those. The robots.txt access shows that 149 bots also hit the site...
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 00:07, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's an idea. Considering we no longer have CVS repos displayed on repos.archlinux.org, we could switch to an SVN only web viewer that supports this. http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN&
Wow, this is so much better than ViewVC! But please keep arch-commits ML (with community commits included) in addition to RSS feeds provided by WebSVN.
Yeah, I think this is two fold - replace the repo viewer with the intent of giving us RSS feeds and additionally add the community repo to the commits ML.
2009/10/13, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com>:
I thought that maybe TU wouldn't be interested in the core/extra commits but I guess if you're interested in the community commits, you'll also be interested in the core/extra ones. So one list is good.
I vote for one list for all. -- Arch Linux Developer http://www.archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.it
2009/10/13, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com>:
Hi,
Could one of the admins setup a ML for the commits of the community andcommunity-testing repos? Several people including myself would find it useful as we already have one for core/extra/testing.
+1 Thanks Eric! -- Arch Linux Developer http://www.archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.it
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Aaron Griffin
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Allan McRae
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Andrea Scarpino
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Dan McGee
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Eric Bélanger
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Giovanni Scafora
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Roman Kyrylych
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Thomas Bächler