2008/3/24, Aaron Griffin :

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:

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Am Montag, 24. März 2008 schrieb Aaron Griffin:

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Splitting thread

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:

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Am Montag, 24. März 2008 schrieb Simo Leone:

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On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 07:28:13PM +0100, Tobias Powalowski wrote:

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Users are happy with the new ISOs, just read the Forum thread about it.

You know what. I don't care if the users are happy with the new ISOs. That's right, I finally said it. _I DON'T CARE_

I don't care because _I_ am not happy with them. As someone who can see that from a technological standpoint, it's a marvel that they even work, that is, as a software developer, I'm ashamed to be associated with such a shoddy product.

I've offered alternatives, hell I've spent a lot of time offering alternatives, built on more solid software enginerring principles than "Users are Happy", but no one around here, save Dan and Aaron, who just happen to be code contributors, seems to give a damn. What's up with that?

You never started to create ISOs nor you wanted to create them. This topic here is about kernel26 signoff and i would be fine if people would stay on topic.

Please see here back in October: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2007-October/002616.html

Ok no big deal, Simo will create the next ISO.

Great news!

Great? Not in my opinion. :-/ I can say only "W.T.F.?!". We finally have a new RC ISO based on *working* and polished code, though not technologically superb. And IMO it will be much better if we release it and *then* someone may want to create a new ISO based on archiso. Why *noone* suggested archiso when it was known that we are about to release new ISO (or better, offered a help or even created it by himself) if that's that important? I don't understand this, sorry. BTW, I don't understand why this thread was named ISO quality. Did anyone try the ISO so one can say about some issues with it besides that it's not based on archiso? Not that I'm all for archboot and against archiso (actually, I like archiso more) but I don't see issues with archboot that could label ISO generated with it as "bad quality". -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

2008/3/25, Aaron Griffin :

Roman, I'm not going to argue with you.

This thread is named ISO quality because I have an issue with ISO quality. So do Dan and Simo.

No problems. I just wanted to know if the only issue is that it's not archiso-based or there are some others that are new since 2007.11 ISO.

Considering that no one else is writing legitimate code in this regard, the other opinions simply don't matter.

Fine. At least there is RC ISO that can be used until new archiso-based ISO arrives. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)