On 10/26/24 11:42 AM, Aleksandr Razdolski wrote:
Hi,
I will add my two cents as well. I think it worth to check Mattermost [0]. It supports audio calls, file and screen sharing. Cosmic DE (System76) developers are using it.
Best wishes, Aleksandr Razdolski
On Oct 25, 2024, at 4:34 PM, Sven-Hendrik Haase <svenstaro@archlinux.org> wrote:
On 25.10.24 11:12, Jelle van der Waa wrote:
Hi,
On 25/10/2024 10:41, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
Hello everyone,
I would like to suggest we set up a Mumble server for Arch Linux staff.
Time and time again, it's been useful for Arch people to come together for a longer time to hack on various projects or to plan stuff like Arch Summit. Often times, people use Jitsi for such things. However, I think Mumble is a more suitable alternative for people hanging out for a longer time as it: - allows you to have multiple channels for dedicated topics and you can see who's currently meeting where - is more stable than Jitsi in my experience - has better desktop integration for muting - has better quality - can more easily be used over slow networks
Mumble lacks video which can be really nice as one can share their screen or actually visually see someone talking.
So I think it is worth it to go the extra mile and propose a solution in that direction. Matrix is as far as I know can do P2P video calls one on one and is working on multi person video meetings. My preference would be to have integrated there, question arises if we can easily invite outsiders.
Video and screenshare would be great but I don't currently know a channel-based solution except for Discord that supports that. We could use Discord instead for this purpose but I think in this community that's generally frowned upon and so I didn't even bring that up. Other voice-only solutions that I know of that are channel-based are Ventrilo and Teamspeak but I don't think they are good contenders either as they have no advantages over Mumble.
I don't particularly like Mumble but I do thinks it's the best we have in the FOSS space.
I looked into the Matrix-based solutions and as far as I can tell, it's not what we're looking for either. There is element-call [0][1] which is explicit calling (and looks somewhat early in development) and then there is Jitsi integration in Element [2] but it seems to share the normal limitations of Jitsi such as no push-to-talk and no configurable silence threshold on top of not _really_ being a voice channel (in the sense of Discord or Mumble).
There is Revolt [3] which is an AGPL Discord clone but when I looked at it in the past, it was somewhat complex to operate and I thought the development was a bit sketchy. I'm not sure I'd want to operate this under the Arch umbrella.
With those arguments and other solutions on the table, I would like to reaffirm my suggestion to run an Arch Linux Mumble server.
Cheers, Sven
[0] https://github.com/element-hq/element-call [1] https://element.io/blog/introducing-native-matrix-voip-with-element-call/ [2] https://github.com/element-hq/element-web/blob/develop/docs/jitsi.md [3] https://github.com/revoltchat/ <OpenPGP_signature.asc>
Sadly only 1 on 1 calls available on free selfhosted version and no SSO. https://mattermost.com/pricing/. I do use it for another project and it's a great Slack alternative. Regards, Arun