On 25.10.24 11:12, Jelle van der Waa wrote:
Hi,
On 25/10/2024 10:41, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
Hello everyone,
I would like to suggest we set up a Mumble server for Arch Linux staff.
Time and time again, it's been useful for Arch people to come together
for a longer time to hack on various projects or to plan stuff like
Arch Summit. Often times, people use Jitsi for such things. However, I
think Mumble is a more suitable alternative for people hanging out for
a longer time as it:
- allows you to have multiple channels for dedicated topics and you
can see who's currently meeting where
- is more stable than Jitsi in my experience
- has better desktop integration for muting
- has better quality
- can more easily be used over slow networks
Mumble lacks video which can be really nice as one can share their
screen or actually visually see someone talking.
So I think it is worth it to go the extra mile and propose a solution in
that direction. Matrix is as far as I know can do P2P video calls one on
one and is working on multi person video meetings. My preference would
be to have integrated there, question arises if we can easily invite
outsiders.
Video and screenshare would be great but I don't currently know a
channel-based solution except for Discord that supports that. We could
use Discord instead for this purpose but I think in this community
that's generally frowned upon and so I didn't even bring that up. Other
voice-only solutions that I know of that are channel-based are Ventrilo
and Teamspeak but I don't think they are good contenders either as they
have no advantages over Mumble.
I don't particularly like Mumble but I do thinks it's the best we have
in the FOSS space.
I looked into the Matrix-based solutions and as far as I can tell, it's
not what we're looking for either. There is element-call [0][1] which is
explicit calling (and looks somewhat early in development) and then
there is Jitsi integration in Element [2] but it seems to share the
normal limitations of Jitsi such as no push-to-talk and no configurable
silence threshold on top of not _really_ being a voice channel (in the
sense of Discord or Mumble).
There is Revolt [3] which is an AGPL Discord clone but when I looked at
it in the past, it was somewhat complex to operate and I thought the
development was a bit sketchy. I'm not sure I'd want to operate this
under the Arch umbrella.
With those arguments and other solutions on the table, I would like to
reaffirm my suggestion to run an Arch Linux Mumble server.
Cheers,
Sven
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