[arch-events] FrOSCon - Who brings what?
I started a wiki page, please feel free to fill in information so we can get everything organized until the end of next week: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FrOSCon_09_-_Wer_bringt_was%3F
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:08:15 +0200 Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
I started a wiki page, please feel free to fill in information so we can get everything organized until the end of next week:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FrOSCon_09_-_Wer_bringt_was%3F
good idea to make this - out of curiousity: network equipment not provided by froscon? - presentation machines. seems like we already have 2. I could bring my samsung syncmaster 2032 BW for Gerbra's pc. (it has an dvi and a vga port) Jens could then use his 2 screens on his own pc to show off kde 4.3 or whatever. then we could use gerbra's machine to demonstrate installations. is that okay for you jens? - Hacking dog: Andy . wut? Dieter
Dieter Plaetinck schrieb:
good idea to make this
- out of curiousity: network equipment not provided by froscon?
We need to bring switches and cables ourselves. We'll probably not get as many ethnernet ports as we need. They explicitly wrote it in another mail, but it's stuck in the arch-events queue because of the big attachment, Aaron will have to allow it explicitly when he goes through the moderation queue.
- presentation machines. seems like we already have 2. I could bring my samsung syncmaster 2032 BW for Gerbra's pc. (it has an dvi and a vga port) Jens could then use his 2 screens on his own pc to show off kde 4.3 or whatever. then we could use gerbra's machine to demonstrate installations. is that okay for you jens?
3 monitors seems like much, but I am in if you think it's a good idea. Last year, gerbra ran a full installation video over and over, and Jens' machine was used for showing off and abusing Arch a lot. I am thinking maybe we need only one machine, no idea.
- Hacking dog: Andy . wut?
http://users.archlinux.de/~pierre/froscon/2008/2008-08-23_18-01-20.jpg
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:23:37 +0200 Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org> wrote:
Dieter Plaetinck schrieb:
good idea to make this
- out of curiousity: network equipment not provided by froscon?
We need to bring switches and cables ourselves. We'll probably not get as many ethnernet ports as we need. They explicitly wrote it in another mail, but it's stuck in the arch-events queue because of the big attachment, Aaron will have to allow it explicitly when he goes through the moderation queue.
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- presentation machines. seems like we already have 2. I could bring my samsung syncmaster 2032 BW for Gerbra's pc. (it has an dvi and a vga port) Jens could then use his 2 screens on his own pc to show off kde 4.3 or whatever. then we could use gerbra's machine to demonstrate installations. is that okay for you jens?
3 monitors seems like much, but I am in if you think it's a good idea. Last year, gerbra ran a full installation video over and over, and Jens' machine was used for showing off and abusing Arch a lot. I am thinking maybe we need only one machine, no idea.
okay let's figure out what are goals are, how we can achieve them best, and then which hardware we need. goals: - demonstrate installation process. - demonstrate pacman / general Arch concepts such as rc.conf - (show off a DE/WM. many options here: kde3, but also lxde/openbox etc can be interesting and are more KISS. showing a dualscreen setup may be cool as well, but needed? do we even have enough room?) means: - @ installation procedure: it's indeed usefull to have a video here, so we don't have to do it manually everytime a user wants to see it. Gerhard, how did you do the video last year? can you do it again or tell me how to do it? - @ installation procedure: it's also possible to do completely automated installations, but probably not many people are interested in that (you also see no ncurses interfaces and such). maybe we can also make a video and show both videos? - @ DE/wm show off: we need a pc with a tried and working setup, especially if we use dualscreen. and we must be sure users cannot fuck things up. Jens your pc is good for this?
- Hacking dog: Andy . wut?
http://users.archlinux.de/~pierre/froscon/2008/2008-08-23_18-01-20.jpg
ooh it even has a blue collar :) first time i see these pics. Dieter
Dieter Plaetinck schrieb:
okay let's figure out what are goals are, how we can achieve them best, and then which hardware we need.
goals: - demonstrate installation process. - demonstrate pacman / general Arch concepts such as rc.conf - (show off a DE/WM. many options here: kde3, but also lxde/openbox etc can be interesting and are more KISS. showing a dualscreen setup may be cool as well, but needed? do we even have enough room?)
means: - @ installation procedure: it's indeed usefull to have a video here, so we don't have to do it manually everytime a user wants to see it. Gerhard, how did you do the video last year? can you do it again or tell me how to do it? - @ installation procedure: it's also possible to do completely automated installations, but probably not many people are interested in that (you also see no ncurses interfaces and such). maybe we can also make a video and show both videos?
It looked a bit weird, having a video about a curses installation running in endless loop. He recorded a virtualbox session with recordmydesktop or similar, details will be in his reply :)
- @ DE/wm show off: we need a pc with a tried and working setup, especially if we use dualscreen. and we must be sure users cannot fuck things up. Jens your pc is good for this?
I don't know if we have dualhead. Last year, Jens brought a machine with nvidia, so we just installed KDE 4.2 and showed some stuff there. We installed it live on Saturday morning and then just did stuff with it. And btw, I want users to fuck this thing up, give them root and let them play around, reinstall if they break it :) We need clean hard drives for that, I have one 320GB and one 120GB which we could use if there are no others.
Am Montag, den 17.08.2009, 11:54 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler:
Dieter Plaetinck schrieb:
means: - @ installation procedure: it's indeed usefull to have a video here, so we don't have to do it manually everytime a user wants to see it. Gerhard, how did you do the video last year? can you do it again or tell me how to do it?
It looked a bit weird, having a video about a curses installation running in endless loop. He recorded a virtualbox session with recordmydesktop or similar, details will be in his reply :)
Exactly, and my experience was that it was not very usefull at all. Ok, we have had something "that moves", many people looked at it but it's not very interessting to look 15-20 minutes how a install goes on - without comments or other things. IMHO we get better interest and questions when we from time to time do a installation "live". Such a presentation is IMHO good if we make it a real presentation - we have a goal what to tell (Arch advantages, or why pacman/PKGBUILD/abs is the best build system,...) and have good presentation pages - not only a "video"... This time we benefit most if we use both machines for live things.
play around, reinstall if they break it :)
We need clean hard drives for that, I have one 320GB and one 120GB which we could use if there are no others.
Exactly. I have only a 40GB IDE HD as such a HD, but this could be enough as playground. If you, Thomas, maybe could bring one of your HDs additionaly (with a complete repo snapshot?) we could use this 2nd HD also to make a image from boot-HD to get a clean install back. Gerhard
participants (3)
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Dieter Plaetinck
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Gerhard Brauer
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Thomas Bächler