Hey, I'll try my best to make it to FrOsCon again, but can't promise it right now as I'm pretty busy...

I don't expect to make it this year, though there's a possibility that I might come if there's an affordable flight or train trip from Bremen to Sankt Augustin. Flying from Haugesund to Bremen is nearly free, but from Bremen it's quite a distance to Sant Augustin. I won't travel through europe by car anymore, it's far too expensive to get out of this country with it. You could try to find someone to carpool. In Germany, mitfahrgelegenheit.de has a lot of offers for cheap travelling, usually around 5€/100km. So you could go from Bremen to Bonn or Köln or something and take the local train from there.

cheers, Chris

Am Freitag 29 Mai 2009 11:23:24 schrieb Pierre Schmitz:

Of course any additional support is more than welcome.

I think everyone has to sign up at https://callforprojects.froscon.org/

We also need to fill out the project registration form at that site. It would be nice if someone would spend some time help on this. We have to send this today. The form looks like this: http://users.archlinux.de/~pierre/tmp/froscon-register.pdf

Its time to get it done. I have set up a wiki page at http://wiki.archlinux.de/title/FrOSCon_2009_Application Please have a look. You don't need to register to edit that page. -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre@jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de

I am sending a copy of this to the dev list, as few people read the events list: I have registered the Arch Linux project at the FrOSCon website. So far, these people have confirmed their participation: Andy Daniel (ise) Jens (byte) Pierre Thomas (me) With a big maybe: Christoph (delmonico) An even bigger maybe: Jan (JGC) All of you should register at https://callforprojects.froscon.org/ and join the Arch Linux project there. Also, others might consider joining us (Ronald is from the Netherlands and Dieter is from Belgium, so it's not too far for them (any of you guys interested?), of course anyone from our dev or TU team can join us, please write to the arch-events list or reply to this email). We should get a booth (with 2 tables this time, yay) and a room for both days if they accept our application. I think we should at least have posters and CDs this year, presentation machines and maybe more cool stuff, ideas are welcome.

On Sat, 30 May 2009 16:20:18 +0200 Thomas Bächler wrote:

I am sending a copy of this to the dev list, as few people read the events list:

I have registered the Arch Linux project at the FrOSCon website. So far, these people have confirmed their participation:

Andy Daniel (ise) Jens (byte) Pierre Thomas (me)

With a big maybe: Christoph (delmonico) An even bigger maybe: Jan (JGC)

All of you should register at https://callforprojects.froscon.org/ and join the Arch Linux project there. Also, others might consider joining us (Ronald is from the Netherlands and Dieter is from Belgium, so it's not too far for them (any of you guys interested?), of course anyone from our dev or TU team can join us, please write to the arch-events list or reply to this email).

We should get a booth (with 2 tables this time, yay) and a room for both days if they accept our application.

I think we should at least have posters and CDs this year, presentation machines and maybe more cool stuff, ideas are welcome.

I would definitely be interested in getting together with fellow Arch guys, and it doesn't look too far, so I'm interested, but: 1) I am much more interested in the social aspect and/or meaningful IRL discussions, rather then sitting in some booth promoting arch to (potential) users. do you guys plan to get a devroom and/or do more meaningful things then "booth-sitting" ? 2) The link "program" on their site links to "call for papers", is there a way to get an up to date view of what talks there will be? 3) are the talks mostly in german? how much of a problem is it that I don't speak german? 4) is there an entrance fee? 5) do you guys plan to go both days? Thanks Dieter

Am Samstag 30 Mai 2009 18:55:07 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck:

1) I am much more interested in the social aspect and/or meaningful IRL discussions, rather then sitting in some booth promoting arch to (potential) users. do you guys plan to get a devroom and/or do more meaningful things then "booth-sitting" ?

This is definetly not about sitting at a booth and waiting for people. We will have a dev room, there will be a social event on saturday evening. Last year I had no time booting up my notebook. (talking to lots of people visiting other projects etc.)

2) The link "program" on their site links to "call for papers", is there a way to get an up to date view of what talks there will be?

they are still on planning the event

3) are the talks mostly in german? how much of a problem is it that I don't speak german?

That shouldn't be a problem. Lot's of talks are in English and pretty much everybody should understand you. But you might ask Jan about how he felt last year.

4) is there an entrance fee?

Sure, as community project we'll get vip badges. So we'll have drinks and food for free, too.

5) do you guys plan to go both days?

Yes. If you don't want to stay at a hotel you can sleep in our dev room. -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre@jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de

Dieter Plaetinck schrieb:

I would definitely be interested in getting together with fellow Arch guys, and it doesn't look too far, so I'm interested, but: 1) I am much more interested in the social aspect and/or meaningful IRL discussions, rather then sitting in some booth promoting arch to (potential) users. do you guys plan to get a devroom and/or do more meaningful things then "booth-sitting" ?

I was sitting at the booth a lot last year, but many of us where in the dev room. I also talked to some KDE people and viewed a total of two talks. At least two people should be at the booth at all times though! If you would come, we could talk about the AIF stuff and try some test installations, collect thoughts for improvements and so on, that's why your name popped into my mind when I saw you were from Belgium.

3) are the talks mostly in german? how much of a problem is it that I don't speak german?

For the social part, it is no problem. You can only visit the English talks then, but talking to Arch devs, other Open Source people - virtually everyone in the Open Source community speaks English. Jan was there in 2007 and he rejoined us in 2008, so it can't be THAT bad.

4) is there an entrance fee?

There will be a day in June or July when the FrOSCon people will want to know all the names of the project members that will join Arch at FrOSCon. If you can give us a definite yes until then, we will sign you up as part of the Arch project and there will be no fee. Last year we had: - Free food at noon on Saturday - Free food at the social event - Free beer at the social event - Free accomodations (we could sleep on the floor in our dev room, it's not too comfortable, but cheap) - Free breakfast on Sunday - Free food at noon on Sunday I have no idea if they will repeat that, but I would imagine they will.

5) do you guys plan to go both days?

We're planning to have a booth, so we MUST stay both days, otherwise the organisers will be very angry. However, keep this in mind: We only submitted our application so far, we haven't been accepted yet - although I think we will be.

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 17:20, Thomas Bächler wrote:

I am sending a copy of this to the dev list, as few people read the events list:

I have registered the Arch Linux project at the FrOSCon website. So far, these people have confirmed their participation:

Andy Daniel (ise) Jens (byte) Pierre Thomas (me)

With a big maybe: Christoph (delmonico) An even bigger maybe: Jan (JGC)

All of you should register at https://callforprojects.froscon.org/ and join the Arch Linux project there. Also, others might consider joining us (Ronald is from the Netherlands and Dieter is from Belgium, so it's not too far for them (any of you guys interested?), of course anyone from our dev or TU team can join us, please write to the arch-events list or reply to this email).

We should get a booth (with 2 tables this time, yay) and a room for both days if they accept our application.

I think we should at least have posters and CDs this year, presentation machines and maybe more cool stuff, ideas are welcome.

Isn't it too late for me to register? I'm obviously late, didn't read mails until recently... -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 17:20, Thomas Bächler wrote:

I think we should at least have posters and CDs this year, presentation machines and maybe more cool stuff, ideas are welcome.

I can make printed or lightscribed CDs/DVDs as I have equipment for this, just need some up-to-date images. Thayer, can you provide some? As for the hardware, I will be able to take only my laptop, mini-ITX box and a DSLR camera, and probably will need some papers to help me get a visa. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

Dieter Plaetinck schrieb:

1) i accepted you :)

There is no way to list everyone who joined the project. I accepted Pierre and Andy initially, no idea what happened since then.

2) we will know the result very soon. http://twitter.com/froscon/statuses/2034579756/

This seems to be about the Call for Papers, projects are another thing. Apparently, we'll also get an E-Mail soon, I was talking to some guy in #froscon who said there was trouble because some projects didn't fill out the application completely (we did).

3) we may (should) see a new official arch release before mid august. Mind if I ask what Thayer has to do with this? We "release engineers" are the newcomers in the arch developer group, so maybe i'm missing something ;)

Thayer is our artwork guy, so he can design covers for the CDs. I asked him last year and we didn't have a FrOSCon logo in svg, I'll organize that this time.

4) Is the text in the "application form" publicly visible or is it only meant for the froscon organizers? It looks a bit like sales talk imho.

I wrote it, and I was actually selling Arch to them. The application is only for the FrOSCon people, but some of the rest is for the website.

Andrea Scarpino schrieb:

Hi all, and sorry for the late.

wonderful! I hear now of this event and I like to come with one my friend (Arch Linux user obviously).

I already registered and account on FrOSCon and did a request to join in the Arch Project.

I am going to check the fly!!! :)

Wow, this is getting big. We are becoming MANY people, so it is possible that the FrOSCon people will not allow everyone to come for free (we said 5-7 people, we are now 8 with you), so it is possible that you have to pay - in the end, we have to see if the FrOSCon people will allow 8 people for such a small project, I surely hope so. Anyway, I would love to meet you there, I just accepted you in the Arch Linux project. I didn't expect to have so many people coming, especially from that far away (Roman is coming from Ukraine, you from Italy, wow).

Andrea Scarpino schrieb:

2009/6/11 Thomas Bächler :

...

Wow, this is getting big. We are becoming MANY people, so it is possible that the FrOSCon people will not allow everyone to come for free (we said 5-7 people, we are now 8 with you), so it is possible that you have to pay - in the end, we have to see if the FrOSCon people will allow 8 people for such a small project, I surely hope so. ok, anyway I want to know if I can sleep at froscon. And in this case if my friend can also (I think no, but I ask).

Our room is only 20m², it will be tight, but I guess we can arrange it (Pierre will probably go home, that still makes 8 people, hmmm). I forwarded a mail from the FrOSCon people the other day, I should translate it all to English.

...

Anyway, I would love to meet you there, I just accepted you in the Arch Linux project. I didn't expect to have so many people coming, especially from that far away (Roman is coming from Ukraine, you from Italy, wow). I am not only from Italy...I am from SUD sud Italy (Lecce - Bonn: 1800km) but also I like the idea to meet all you and this is a good occasion; also to know to others projects we are not small at the end :)

It's nice to hear, I'm also looking forward to it.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:33, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:

On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:03:30 +0200 Thomas Bächler wrote:

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Our room is only 20m², it will be tight, but I guess we can arrange it (Pierre will probably go home, that still makes 8 people, hmmm).

Maybe we should maintain a wiki page "who will come", "who will sleep there" etc. especially when froscon is coming really close it can be useful to have such a page

Speaking about sleeping. I think I won't be able to get a sleeping bag with me due to limitations in a size and volume of baggage in Wizzair to stay low-cost. Can someone bring an extra sleeping bag for me so I can sleep in the dev room? (If not then I will look for some hostel in S.A. or Bonn) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

Did you get a response already? IIRC its only 5 bucks for the weekend anyway - including the beer flatrate and all you can würstchen...

Roman Kyrylych schrieb:

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 22:50, Thomas Bächler wrote:

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Wow, this is getting big. We are becoming MANY people, so it is possible that the FrOSCon people will not allow everyone to come for free (we said 5-7 people, we are now 8 with you), so it is possible that you have to pay - in the end, we have to see if the FrOSCon people will allow 8 people for such a small project, I surely hope so.

Did you get a response already?

They didn't say anything yet, maybe they don't care. I should change the number in our applications. I will forward an informational mail to this list, which was sent in English.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 15:29, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:

Hi, as you may or may not know we want to put out a new release by froscon (see http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-releng/2009-July/000564.html for example )

now, there was some talk a while back when froscon 2009 came first up about cdroms with lightscribe and artwork or whatever.

afaik Roman and Thomas were involved/interested in this. (http://www.mail-archive.com/arch-dev-public@archlinux.org/msg08206.html)

Anyway, I'm only saying: Gerhard, Aaron and I will take care of the iso's/img's, so whoever who will take care of the physical media to distribute can get in touch with us for details if needed. (this release will also bring new documentation btw)

LightScribed and/or printed CDs would be great (I can do both). @Thayer: if you could make a couple of cool labels for official CDs in 2-3 weeks - that would be awesome. ;-) Note that since labels for LightScribe disks have a larger hole [1] there will be two types of labels needed. [1] http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Articles/Sources/LightScribe_Comparison/Imag... -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

Am Donnerstag, den 23.07.2009, 15:37 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler:

Thayer already made a new logo. http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/froscon-white-cd-2009a.svg http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/froscon-white-cd-2009b.svg

Last year, Pierre printed 100CDs somewhere, can we do it this way again?

BTW, don't worry about the multiarch ISO. When we have an ISO for i686 and one for x86_64, a script can easily merge them into one ISO!

Only to mention: This will be not a "special froscon ISO" as last year (ok, if we merge them as multiarch then it will maybe be.. <g>). In fact 2009.08 will be official images... Gerhard (for german: Call me a "Korinthenkacker" <g>)

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:06:46 +0200 Thomas Bächler wrote:

Gerhard Brauer schrieb:

...

Only to mention: This will be not a "special froscon ISO" as last year (ok, if we merge them as multiarch then it will maybe be.. <g>). In fact 2009.08 will be official images...

It is special because it has a special cover and we give it away on froscon and it is multi-arch!

You're both right. The "iso" is not special, but the resulting product will have "added value" ;-) Dieter

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:25:06 +0300 Roman Kyrylych wrote:

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 17:50, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:

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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:06:46 +0200 Thomas Bächler wrote:

...

Gerhard Brauer schrieb:

...

Only to mention: This will be not a "special froscon ISO" as last year (ok, if we merge them as multiarch then it will maybe be.. <g>). In fact 2009.08 will be official images...

It is special because it has a special cover and we give it away on froscon and it is multi-arch!

You're both right. The "iso" is not special, but the resulting product will have "added value" ;-)

BTW maybe double-arch isos will be popular downloads if we make them available?

If you want official iso's to support this, help us out :) http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10753 Dieter