December 2009 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?
by Denis A. Altoé Falqueto 13 Dec '09

13 Dec '09

Hi, fellow archers. I've created a new email with a new subject, so that who wants to ignore this completely, can do it easily. The recent past discussions about DBus got me thinking about an unanswered question: what is technically wrong with DBus? After some time researching about that, I can't find that answer by myself. DBus is just a way to make applications communicate. It can be used in several languages, namely C, C++, Java, Perl, Python, Ruby, and many more. There are tools for it in bash, although there's some limitations with that, but is very easy to do something fast in python or perl or ruby or... It (DBus) has some interesting mechanisms to activate daemons just when needed. I find this feature very interesting, so that you only spend the resources when you really need. One restriction is that it is not network enabled, so it only works locally. But in the home page, there is a invitation to improve that situation (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DBusRemote). Anyway, I would like to read what others have to say about DBus, but please give techinical reasons. I don't want to know who likes and who dislikes DBus. And I don't have anything against who dislikes DBus. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Thanks. -- R: Porque prejudica a legibilidade do texto. P: Porque é ruim colocar a resposta de um e-mail antes do texto citado? ------------------------------------------- Denis A. Altoe Falqueto -------------------------------------------

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel 2.6.32-1
by Emmanuel Benisty 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Thomas Bächler wrote: >> >> Allan McRae schrieb: >>> >>> That works for me. I initially thought it was strange that it came on >>> but now I see why. extreme-tuxracer is giving me (>50%) more FPS with this >>> update. >> >> Intel DRM has been improved, I noticed that too - probably due to >> framebuffer compression. >> >> KMS is enabled by default because the next intel driver version will >> require it to work. > > With KMS on, my screen flickers every 20sec or so. Tried with no xorg.conf > and the same thing. I even got some sort of yellow/orange screen of death. > I did not use KMS with 2.6.31 so this may not be kernel related. I'll look > into it later but disabling kms from the grub prompt works fine... It's definitely a kernel regression, I'm having the exact same issue with .32 only (using KMS since few kernel releases)

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[arch-general] libmsn-4.0-1 & kopete
by miquel canes 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

Hi all, Kopete msn plugin doesn't work with libmsn-4.0-1. Maybe kopete needs recompile with this new version. Kopete version: 0.80.2. Greetings Miquel

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[arch-general] Bug on Initrd scripts
by goodmenzy＠gmail.com 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

Hi all Anyone has intesting about bug 17474 (at http://bugs.archlinux.org/) ? When a kernel param begins with digital, the initrd scrip (/lib/initcpio/init) will fail. At least one such kernel param is found: "8250.nr_uarts=xxx" Because the 8250 is a driver name and that driver is compiled into the kernel( not as a module),so the only way to set param of it is by kernel cmdline. But in initrc scripts, the "case" block does handle that correctly. I beg the maintainer fix this bug, please.

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[arch-general] makechrootpkg and long union unmount time
by Evangelos Foutras 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Hello, When I'm building a package using makechrootpkg and the build fails or I happen to interrupt it, sometimes it gets stuck at the "cleaning up unioned mounts" stage for a very long time (from several seconds up to a few minutes). During this time, the disk shows intense activity. Does this happen to others too? Any idea why this is occurring and how to prevent it?

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[arch-general] suggestion for pacman: Recommended packages.
by Hussam Al-Tayeb 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

The current case for many packages that use optdepends is as follows. Let's say a package called package1 installs some extra binaries or plugins. Those extra not so used binaries or plugins have extra dependencies (let's call them libsomething) marked as optdepends. so on installation pacman will say something: optional dependency: libsomething needed for package1 plugins to work. How about instead those extra binary files or plugins are split into another package called package1-plugins and have libsomething as plain dependency? Then on package1 installation, pacman should say something like: Recommended packages: package1-plugins for blah blah functionality. A good example is the pacman package itself which has an optional dependency on python for rankmirrors script. Maybe we could split it into a separate pacman-rankmirrors which depends on python the when a user installs/upgrades pacman package, he/she is prompted for recommended package pacman-rankmirrors for blah blah functionality. pacman-rankmirrors would depend on python. I think this is a better and cleaner approach. Obviously not every package can use that approach but it will clean some optdepends and remove some ldd errors because of uninstalled optdepends. Another thing, anyway to make pacman -Rns somepackage also remove optional dependencies that no other package uses?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Packaging Chromium for [extra]
by Denis A. Altoé Falqueto 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.de> wrote: > OK, just uploaded -2 to testing; let me know, if it does work or not. Now it is working with youtube. A local site with flash videos continues to work. -- A: Because it obfuscates the reading. Q: Why is top posting so bad? ------------------------------------------- Denis A. Altoe Falqueto -------------------------------------------

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[arch-general] kde4/kmail slow - anybody else notice or is it just me?
by David C. Rankin 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Guys, Quick request for confirmation. I generally have used tbird in the past but when doing the kde4.3beta tests, I resolved to use kmail and I have pretty much stuck with it since May. The issue I am seeing is a slowdown in kmail that I guess is 4.3.4 related. Specifically I see a slowdown when I access a mail folder containing >2000 messages or so. Each time I leave and return to a folder (my arch folder for example) kmail reloads and re-sorts the entire folder taking some 20+ seconds each time. It is like all 'folder state' caching (for lack of better words) has been turned off. (if that is possible) Anybody else seeing a slow down in kmail? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Fwd: [arch-dev-public] Packaging Chromium for [extra]
by Denis A. Altoé Falqueto 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

>For some unknown reason the current package crashes with flash sometimes. Any >ideas? Or maybe it's just me? It's happening with me too... :( Youtube crashes in the pages that contains videos. But another page (a brazilian news site with flash videos too) works fine. -- A: Because it obfuscates the reading. Q: Why is top posting so bad? ------------------------------------------- Denis A. Altoe Falqueto -------------------------------------------

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[arch-general] iwl5000 issues
by Rafa Grimán 10 Dec '09

10 Dec '09

Hi :) Got a Lenovo T400 laptop with an Intel 5100 wireless card, lspci: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection Which was working until I updated my system. Kernel version: # uname -a Linux currotop 2.6.31-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Nov 10 19:01:40 CET 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux Have the following packages installed: # pacman -Q | grep -iE "(kernel|iw|wireless)" iwlwifi-5000-ucode 8.24.2.12-2 kernel-headers 2.6.31.5-1 kernel26 2.6.31.6-1 kernel26-firmware 2.6.31-1 wireless_tools 29-3 Modules that are loaded: # lsmod | grep -i iwl iwlagn 132576 0 iwlcore 126496 1 iwlagn mac80211 179312 2 iwlagn,iwlcore led_class 5160 2 thinkpad_acpi,iwlcore cfg80211 104344 3 iwlagn,iwlcore,mac80211 dmesg says this: # dmesg | grep -i iwl iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, 1.3.27ks iwlagn: Copyright(c) 2003-2009 Intel Corporation iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5100AGN REV=0x54 iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 24 802.11a channels iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: irq 31 for MSI/MSI-X phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-agn-rs' Nothing weird in /var/log/messages.lo: Dec 8 14:01:25 currotop kernel: iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, 1.3.27ks Dec 8 14:01:25 currotop kernel: iwlagn: Copyright(c) 2003-2009 Intel Corporation Dec 8 14:01:25 currotop kernel: iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 Dec 8 14:01:25 currotop kernel: iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5100AGN REV=0x54 Dec 8 14:01:25 currotop kernel: iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 24 802.11a channels Following the wiki: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless#iwl3945.2C_iwl4965_and_iwl5000- series ifconfig -a gives this: wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1E:65:CF:B5:7A BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) wmaster0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-1E-65-CF- B5-7A-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 [NO FLAGS] MTU:0 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) I get the following errors: # ifconfig wlan0 up SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132 # iwlist wlan0 scan wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down Seems the firmware doesn't get loaded, but I have the firmware package installed as listed previously, checking: # pacman -Ql iwlwifi-5000-ucode iwlwifi-5000-ucode /lib/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /lib/firmware/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode iwlwifi-5000-ucode /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode iwlwifi-5000-ucode /usr/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /usr/share/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /usr/share/licenses/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /usr/share/licenses/iwlwifi-5000-ucode/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /usr/share/licenses/iwlwifi-5000-ucode/LICENSE ls -lha /lib/firmware/iwl* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 337K 2009-11-24 04:08 /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 345K 2009-11-24 04:08 /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode my /etc.rc.conf MODULES line holds this: MODULES=(... blkcipher aes arc4 ecb cryptomgr crypto_algapi iwlagn ...) I have been reading the forums and found these 2 links: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=77416 seems that okczenaj solved the issue reinstalling his system and installing: iw iwlwifi-5000-ucode wireless_tools packages http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=62532 seems iggyst00ge solved his issues by dropping Arch Linux 64 Is there any way to solve this issue without having to reinstall my laptop? As I said before, my wireless was working until I updated. Don't know for sure which package broke wireless connectivity. TIA Rafa -- "We cannot treat computers as Humans. Computers need love." rgriman(a)skype.com rgriman(a)jabberes.org Happily using KDE 4.3.3 :)

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