October 2011 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] See the llvm volumes from GRUB console
by Alfredo Palhares 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

Hello, I upgarded a remote machine recently. And i got loocked out of the system. I still have acess to the machine trough serial console (KVM). Is there any way to list the lvm volumes from there ? Since my /dev/mapper/Root-root doesn't work. -- Regards, Alfredo Palhares

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[arch-general] Pacman makepkg and signatures
by Myra Nelson 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

Since I don't listen in on irc conversations and haven't picked up on this being discussed on the mailing list, I thought I would go ahead and ask a seemingly dumb question. When building a pacakge from core, extra, or community with makepkg should I locate the signature key for the source tarball and import it into the pacman-key database, or will there be a mechanism for this in the future, or since the same package is used by the devs is it completely unnecessry for me to worry about? Obviously the build completes after issuing the warning about a problem with signature verification and being sure you trust the package so it's not a problem, I'm just trying to stay ahead of the curve. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?
by Oon-Ee Ng 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Testing#.5Btesting.5D states the following (paraphrased for summary):- [testing] is for experienced users who can deal with broken systems, not for the 'absolute latest' package versions. It may break critical/[core] packages, as such users are strongly encouraged to subscribe to [arch-dev-public] and watch the [testing] sub-forum. Second reference - this forum thread - https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=128682 A user basically is using [testing] without fulfilling the above requirements. Should the user be advised not to use [testing] or is this counter-productive to the purpose of [testing]? This discussion is not meant to be commentary on any of the personalities involved in the thread, the thread did spark this but I'd like to hear (esp from devs/TUs) opinions on the general case, not the specific case. The reason for this is that its possible there's quite a bit of difference in opinions, and some clarity would (IMO) help. My personal opinion - If you don't fulfil the above requirement you should not use [testing], and other Arch users should graciously inform you as such. Sorry for the long email, feel free to mute this thread, since I do know its got high potential for unproductive cross-chatter.

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[arch-general] Quiet Updates Lately
by Steve Holmes 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

I've been doing 'pacman -Syu' for several days in a row lately to see no updates. Is bibleo.org still a good repo in the US? Is aArch all that quiet lately or am I missing something?

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[arch-general] Forums down
by Erwin José Lopez Pulgarin 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

Greetings Just to communicate that the archlinux forum pages are all down for the time being, I guess you already know that but just wanting to make sure in case you didn't.

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[arch-general] Wiki & forum down?
by Taylor Hedberg 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and forum seem to have been down for at least a few hours now (I think they are located on the same host). Does anyone know what the situation is?

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[arch-general] Proposal: Translate extension for the wiki
by atilla ontas 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

Hi. I'm trying to translate some articles into Turkish. While looking to the net, i've found a wiki extension named Translate extension. Advantages of this extension as well as the contact information of authors can be found here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate Features include: In-wiki localisation, proofreading and exporting of software interface messages (or just about anything) AJAX enabled web-based translation in supported browsers, as well as gettext based export and import for off-line translation. Structured content page translation using the same system as interface translation. Various aids to make the job of translators easier: Display of translations in globally defined other languages, optionally expanded with user defined languages Collaborative editing of documentation of the use and context of messages Translation memory and machine translation with external tools (tmserver, Google Translate, Apertium) Display of the latest change in the source message Warnings about common mistakes like parameters that are not used. Pre-made modules for various open source products you can use as an example. A versatile plug-in system to make it easy to add new projects as a message group. Various statistics (requires PHPlot for graphics) Translation completion percentages for all message groups in all supported languages Daily updates of completion percentages in all supported languages for any supported message group (if configured). Tool for making activity graphs for spans of time. Can display either number of edits or active users daily or hourly and includes many filters. A more detailed manual for the Translate extension is available at translatewiki.net. This extension can significantly ease up maintenance of the translations with no additional efforts to sync translations with original (automatic synchronization). Also it give us a chance to have "separate wiki for each language" without loosing untranslated information, besides it may eliminate English_Title (Language) weirdness. I think, exporting wiki pages to gnu gettext catalogs format should boosts translations may be using transifex or pootle with wider contributions. I can't find information about this extension in the forums if it have been discussed before. Also i'm just a humble contributor so i don't know if it can be implemented. What do you think about this?

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Re: [arch-general] System Cron jobs not running
by Jason Towell 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

Hi Alex, I think in a default configuration crond handles hourly and runs anacron to handle the daily, weekly, etc. I was having trouble running a daily until I realized my cron.daily shell script environment path did not include /usr/local/bin. Placing the full path to my perl script fixed the issue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Ferrando" <alferpal(a)gmail.com> To: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:05:56 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] System Cron jobs not running Maybe I'm getting it wrong, but is dcron the one that runs the cron.hourly/daily and so on folders as the crontab in the wiki with reference to that default crontab for dcron, not cronie On Fri 21 Oct 2011 05:55:33 PM CEST, R7h0re4 wrote: > Karol Blazewicz<karol.blazewicz(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:54 AM, R7h0re4<r7h0re4(a)att.net> wrote: >>> >>> I made a custom script that I want to put into the weekly system cron >>> job and according to my logs the script is not running weekly like it >>> should. >>> >>> -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 87 Aug 4 13:39 cool_script.sh >>> >>> According to my information the permission are correct as only root >>> should be able to run system cron jobs. >>> >>> This is the only thing I have seen in my logs. >>> >>> Oct 20 03:01:02 localhost anacron[14161]: Anacron started on 2011-10-20 >>> Oct 20 03:01:02 localhost anacron[14161]: Job `cron.weekly' locked by another an >>> acron - skipping >>> Oct 20 03:01:02 localhost anacron[14161]: Will run job `cron.daily' in 12 min. >>> Oct 20 03:01:02 localhost anacron[14161]: Jobs will be executed sequentially >>> Oct 20 03:02:01 localhost anacron[14151]: Job `cron.weekly' started >>> Oct 20 03:02:02 localhost anacron[14151]: Job `cron.weekly' terminated >>> Oct 20 03:02:02 localhost anacron[14151]: Normal exit (1 job run) >>> Oct 20 03:13:02 localhost anacron[14161]: Job `cron.daily' started >>> Oct 20 03:13:55 localhost anacron[14161]: Job `cron.daily' terminated >>> Oct 20 03:13:55 localhost anacron[14161]: Normal exit (1 job run) >>> >>> I do not have Anacron installed, and my script does not run weekly like >>> it is supposed too, I would like fix this problem. >>> >>> Any suggestions are welcome! >>> >>> R7h0re4 >>> >>> >> >> Are you using cronie, dcron or some other cron? cronie provides anacron. > > I do have Cronie installed but I am still wondering why the script won't > run if put in the weekly cron folder. My understanding is the > documentation is a little week concerning this topic on the Wiki. Do I > need to fill a bug report, or is something out of place. > > R7h0re4 > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] mkinitcpio-0.7.5, mkinitcpio-busybox-1.19.2
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

On 10/23/2011 05:12 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: > Hi all, > > I've tagged and rolled mkinitcpio 0.7.5 which is mostly more minor > fixes. Ideally, this is the last release of the 0.7.x series before I > start doing some more serious work. Shortlog is small and found below. > > I've also rolled up a new busybox package to go with it. I've tested > this new combo a variety of setups. > > Dave Reisner (11): > init: refer to busybox by full path on --install > move manpage to section 8 > mkinitcpio: avoid stomping on TMPDIR from the environment (FS#26373) > mkinitcpio: ensure get_kernver always returns a kver > install/pcmcia: fix syntax error (missing&&) (FS#26427) > manpage: correct section number in manpage header > install/udev: relocate udevd for udev 174 > install/base: include new_root as part of build process > init_functions: tighten up mount option gathering > init_functions: replace grep/sed with PEs > init_functions: avoid setting var without LHS > > > Please signoff both architectures. > > Regards, > Dave > > sign-off i686 for archiso. builds/boot OK, shutdown with deinitramfs is working now (Many thanks), so persistense is now working. -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi \cos^2\alpha + \sin^2\alpha = 1

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[arch-general] Arch and Gnome 3problems
by Christian 23 Oct '11

23 Oct '11

Hi all on this list, First, I really apologize if this is off list, but I had trouble registering on the forum's. But OK, now to my problem. I used Gnome in the passed, v2.30 with no issues and I had to do a reinstall of my system and now I am running the latest Arch. However, Gnome seems to be working fine, I think, but I am having problems when I try to use Orca, the screen reader for Gnome. I am visually impaired so I rely on speech and or braille. Here is a short summery of what I did after the installation of Arch was complete I added my user and added it to some of the groups, like audio,video,storage,optical, etc. Then, I did: pacman -S xorg-server xorg-xinit xorg-utils xorg-server-utils pacman -S xf86-video-ati pacman -S gnome gnome-extra pacman -S xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse rc.d start dbus pacman -R gnome-shell gnome-screensaver /etc/rc.d/gdm start Isn't this correct for getting Gnome up and running? Many thanks for any help, Christian

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