June 2011 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] dolphin services unused doesn't show up
by kurrata 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

i have dolphin installed and using it in awesome WM, it doesn't see services that are not turned on. I tried to do both full/minimal kde install, accessing dolphin settings from kde, still the same it looks like this http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7612434/2011-06-07-063524_533x451_scrot.png… if i try to download new services, nothing happens to after install. Anyone knows what could be wrong?

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[arch-general] Reboot - Versioned Kernel Installs
by KESHAV P.R. 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

Hi all, Since the next kernel will be 3.0 , the kernel26 naming is meaningless from the next kernel. I think this is also a good time to consider implementing versioned kernel install. Agreed arch has a policy of 1 package per software in the official repos. While this attitude is acceptable for Xorg or windows managers or even some low level utilities, problems with those can be corrected if the system can boot to a shell atleast (init 1 or 3). But if the kernel fails to boot and under the assumption that the user hdoes not have any rescue system/distro handy he/she cannot boot into the system (atleast not at that moment). Without a working kernel it is not possible to boot to a shell to run any damn command. While this topic has already been discussed at [1] the discussion was slow and has not lead to any fruitful result. This post is mainly to reach out to a larger audience and decide on how to go about since the upsteam version change provides the right time for Arch to reconsider the same. Another discussion at [2] is about removing the word kernel from the initramfs image. If in case versioned kernel proposal is accepted then the initramfs also (automatically) becomes versioned to match the kernel. Atleast Dave Reisner (falconindy) took the first step by making the change in his geninit program. I understand this might require changes in the way mkinitcpio (or geninit if at all it becomes default) and the way pacman handles different versions of same packages. Please join in. [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16702 [2] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18719 Regards. keshav

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[arch-general] After the recent linux kernel update booting fails if usb disks are present in /etc/fstab
by Hector Martinez-Seara 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

Hi, After the last kernel update (I guess) I cannot boot my system if a external usb disk is present in /etc/fstab. I use default fstab mount options for the disks and they have each a single 1GB ext4 partition. Note that the disk mount okay when mounted from the command line after booting. Two identical disks has been tested with the same result so is not a hardware problem. The disks tested are two Western digital 1TB Essential Edition 2.0 (Model: wd10000h1u). In fact this problem was happening very seldom before (1 every 100 reboots) due to to the waking up time of the devices but now it is every boot (only once worked). My question is: Has any thing changed regarding the usb at boot time lately in the kernel? In fact, I have notice a considerable speed up in the booting sequence up to the point where the file system checking is done. Maybe the changes to speed up the booting process have something to do with the problem I'm having? In my case it looks like nothing is been asked to my external drives when checking the filesystems at boot. Just after, the system fails claiming that it has not found the disks. In the past (two days ago), some activity in ligths and spining up sound was present when the system was checking the filesystems, but now everything is quiet. It is anybody else having the same problem? In the meanwhile, as I do not use this disk for booting I have add the nofail option to the fstab for the two disks. Now obviously everything works but the drives are not mounted. Does anybody know the best place to add the mount commands for the drives so they are always accessible for the users after boot? Thanks in advance, Hector -- Hector Martínez-Seara Monné mail: hseara(a)gmail.com Tel: +34656271145 Tel: +358442709253

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Re: [arch-general] Installation images in need of an update?
by Tobias Powalowski 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

Am Samstag 04 Juni 2011 schrieb JM: > Hello, > > The current installer images are from 05.2010 which is over a year > old. I was unable to install Arch on my new laptop using this > installer due to insufficient hardware support in kernel 2.6.33. Are > there any plans to update it? > > Regards, > JM You can also try archboot: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=119109 -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] IPv6 causing wget/curl to hang for a long time?
by Oon-Ee Ng 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

I use the following line to get my current external IP in conky. Recently Its been hanging for ages before responding, so I tried it out and it seems to try an ipv6 address first before timing out and succeeding on the ipv4 address. I know I can just disable ipv6, but since on June 8th (AFAICR) there's gonna be a large scale test of that on the interwebz, probably a good thing to keep around. Any suggestions what the problem could be? Is it simply a faulty DNS server (I'm using my local ISP's DNS)? wget -O -i icanhazip.com --2011-06-05 18:28:04-- http://icanhazip.com/ Resolving icanhazip.com... 2001:470:1f10:d57:feed:beef:cafe:d00d, 50.56.84.181 Connecting to icanhazip.com|2001:470:1f10:d57:feed:beef:cafe:d00d|:80... failed: Connection timed out. Connecting to icanhazip.com|50.56.84.181|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 16 [text/plain] Saving to: “-i” 100%[====================================================================================================================>] 16 --.-K/s in 0s

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[arch-general] texlive: dvipdfmx config changed, but didn't take effect
by XeCycle 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

Hello, I'm using XeLaTeX with PSTricks, and run into a problem. After some STFW, I read that I may need to add `-dNOSAFER' to the `rungs' line in /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfmx/dvipdfmx.cfg, and I did so. But the actual command seen from the output of compilation didn't change: ** WARNING ** Filtering file via command -->rungs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sPAPERSIZE=a0 -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.5 -dAutoFilterGrayImages=false -dGrayImageFilter=/FlateEncode -dAutoFilterColorImages=false -dColorImageFilter=/FlateEncode -sOutputFile='/tmp/dvipdfmx.XXFSUavZ' '/tmp/dvipdfmx.XXccMyU6' -c quit<-- failed. This is `grep rungs dvipdfmx.cfg`: %% We use the rungs wrapper instead of ps2pdf, becuse we cannot use the D "rungs -q -dNOSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sPAPERSIZE=a0 -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=%v -dAutoFilterGrayImages=false -dGrayImageFilter=/FlateEncode -dAutoFilterColorImages=false -dColorImageFilter=/FlateEncode -sOutputFile='%o' '%i' -c quit" What's wrong about this? -- Carl Lei (XeCycle) Department of Physics, Shanghai Jiao Tong University OpenPGP public key: 7795E591 Fingerprint: 1FB6 7F1F D45D F681 C845 27F7 8D71 8EC4 7795 E591 Facebook: Carl Lei Twitter: XeCycle Blog: http://xecycle.blogspot.com Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:14:26 +0800

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Re: [arch-general] Was Fwd: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] coreutils-8.12-2, initscripts-2011.06.2-1, net-tools-1.60-15, udev-171-2, yp-tools-2.12-2
by C Anthony Risinger 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

On Jun 4, 2011 1:54 PM, "mangust" <m4ngust(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 06/04/2011 07:43 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: > > > > I assume the next step will be to migrate /usr to the rootfs. > No need to merge /usr with rootsf. See this thread > http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2011-June/020564.html Separate /usr is 100% historical AFAICT ... per systemd it's unsupported, and IIRC its not perfect supported on any distro for a variety of reasons. I think the ultimate fate, from my readings at least, is merging top level dirs _into_ /usr and symlinking /bin and friends to it. thus /usr becomes your whole "OS" and top level is only state/persistent/transient data. C Anthony [mobile]

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[arch-general] x terminals refresh issue with latest kernels
by Sergey Manucharian 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

I have already reported this problem in kernels' sign-off threads, but still have no solution... With kernels 2.6.38 or 2.6.39 xterm and rxvt do not update the content properly. E.g. I enter "ps -ef" command and see only the first 2 lines at the top and empty space below. In some cases the new command output does not appear at all, I see just the previous command result. The terminal blinks every 6-7 seconds, and for very short time I can see the proper content. As soon as the terminal loses the focus (mouse cursor moved, alt-tab, workspace change) it shows the proper content. However it never happens with roxterm, but it is a gtk-based program. I'm running x86_64 Archlinux on ThinkPad R61 with Intel GM965, xserver 1.10.2. I've tried the recent xf86-video-intel driver from git - no difference at all. Any ideas, please? Thanks, Sergey

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[arch-general] Installation images in need of an update?
by JM 05 Jun '11

05 Jun '11

Hello, The current installer images are from 05.2010 which is over a year old. I was unable to install Arch on my new laptop using this installer due to insufficient hardware support in kernel 2.6.33. Are there any plans to update it? Regards, JM

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[arch-general] pacman "Targets" sort order
by David C. Rankin 05 Jun '11

05 Jun '11

Guys, I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but I thought the upgrade "Targets" were sorted alphabetically by name prior to the pacman upgrade a month or two ago. Now, it looks like they are listed either by repository, then alphabetized or some other logic that ends up -- almost alphabetized. Specifically: Targets (35): bluez-4.93-1 run-parts-3.4.4-1 ca-certificates-20110421-3 dcron-4.5-2 libzip-0.10-1 ebook-tools-0.2.1-2 eina-svn- 58920-1 eet-svn-58955-1 evas-svn-58958-1 ecore-svn-58945-1 e_dbus-svn-58954-1 embryo-svn-58829-1 edje-svn-58887-1 pciutils-3.1.7-4 udev-167-2 eeze-svn-58668-1 efreet- svn-58672-1 e-svn-58940-1 gutenprint-5.2.7-1 hdf5-1.8.6-1 libidn-1.21-1 libxcb-1.7-2 networkmanager-0.8.999-1 openssh- 5.8p2-1 python2-cairo-1.10.0-1 python2-distribute-0.6.16-1 qt-4.7.3-1 rp-pppoe-3.10-6 sudo-1.8.1.p1-1 telepathy- qt4-0.5.16-1 zziplib-0.13.60-1 texlive-bin-2010.1-8 texlive- core-2010.22154-1 udev-compat-167-2 usbutils-002-2 bluez -> run-parts -> ca-certificates?? In the past, I would scan the list to make sure there were no updates that I didn't want or that I needed to put off due to bugs or what not. Now I've been bitten a time or two by searching through long Target lists and confirming there were no unwanted updates only to find out that an unwanted update was alphabetized higher-up or lower in the target list. Has the target list always sorted by repo, then by name --or-- was the list fully sorted by name earlier? If so, is it easy to change? In short lists, it's not really a big deal, but when you have over 100 targets, having them sorted by name really helps. What say the pacman gurus? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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