November 2012 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] systemd sessions, su -l, and access to /dev/
by MSal 25 Nov '12

25 Nov '12

Hello. I asked about this in the forum. But it looks like this is a better place to discuss systemd-related issues. If I login to user1 or user2 then try to play audio which requires access to /dev/snd/* , proper access to the logged in user is set by the session and everything works correctly. But, if I login to user1 then su to user2, audio wouldn't work because access permissions are assigned to the session user only (user1). Any idea how to fix this issue?

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[arch-general] issues with netcfg v3.0 whe installing archlinux
by kendell clark 24 Nov '12

24 Nov '12

Hi all I'm not sure how, but I broke my archlinux installation on my internal hard drive. But I have the arch-installation scripts on my usb arch install, so I'm installing arch back on to my hard drive. Everything goes fine until it gets to the point where I set up the network from within the chroot. I run wifi-menu, which works fine, I select my network, family_network, enter the wpa2 key, and wait. Sometimes it will connect, and sometimes it will give me one of two error messages. Either, ip lease attempt failed, or failed to connect. In either case I select not to keep the generated profile, and try again. If it does connect, the internet works fine with a ping to google.com, but if I touch either the pacman mirrorlist file, or configure pacman in pacman.conf, and run a pacman -Syy, pacman errors out with a, failed to retrieve reponame, download library error. I'm stumped. I've varified that I have the correct wpa passphrase, and that my internet functions normally. If I exit the chroot, reboot and chroot back in it will work for a little while, then go out again with the same error. Am I missing something obvious? or is it an issue with my usb install? If I try this from the arch iso I downloaded in july, it works. but I can't easily consult the beginner's guide from the console which is why I don't use it. Thanks for any help and sorry for the long message.

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[arch-general] Reboot hangs after Detaching DM Devices
by Mateusz Loskot 24 Nov '12

24 Nov '12

Hi, I installed Arch using latest ISO on ThinkPad W700. I've worked in text mode only, not installed X11 yet. Everything seems to work well so far. The only issue I noticed is when I reboot, the procedure hangs just after displaying line with the message: "Detaching DM Devices" I tried quick investigation using commands like: sytstemd-analyze sytstemd-analyze blame But, nothing obvious come up. I've seen similar problem was reported to OpenSUSE, Fedora, long time ago, but the reports are not very helpful (I use much newer kernel). Could anyone suggest what else I can do to investigate the problem and find what's a troublemaker here? p.s. No idea why, but my posts seem to be held for moderation, I hope this one will make it through. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

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[arch-general] File permissions with udisks/udisk2 mounts
by Paul Marwick 24 Nov '12

24 Nov '12

I tried asking this on the forum, didn't get any real answers, so I'm hoping someone here can help. I have a script located on a Vfat-formatted flash drive. When mounted using udisks, there are no execute permissions showing on the files, and they cannot be set. After some research, it seems that udisks works with polkit to set things like permission on mounted devices. Unfortunately, so far my attempts at research haven't led me to any information on setting permissions the way I need them, or even where the settings are stored. So I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction - I want to be able to modify things like execute permissions on mounted devices when I need to. I'm not all that partial to being effectively told I can't do that - reminds me much too much of Windows. I've tried a few workarounds, with little or no success. I installed pmount and used it with the -e option to mount the device. Still no execute permissions. I tried using sh to execute the script - failed again.... I also tried adding the device to /etc/fstab. In that instance, the file showed as executable, but any attempt to execute it, even as root, got a 'permission denied' message. Argh! Paul.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [RFC] the future of /media
by Kevin Chadwick 23 Nov '12

23 Nov '12

> There are very good reasons for this change (mainly security), I think it had very little to do with security, unless you count device type privacy information from folder names. I use /media/usb? and they are accessible only by root and whichever user mounted it, logically findable by order of mount. I believe the reason was so that it was in a filesystem meant for dynamic files (this feature is really irritating for some default labels but I guess a little prettier otherwise and for multi-seat). I have udisks 1 and 2 installed but use neither. I have permanent folders in /media/. Will /media/ changes by pacman simply fail and everything continue happily or will I simply have to recreate or make them immutable? -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________

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[arch-general] Polluted login prompt
by Sudaraka Wijesinghe 23 Nov '12

23 Nov '12

Hey Archers, This is an issue I has since the day I switched to systemd, I was hoping it would get fixed eventually but seems not. I start both Apache and MySQL services on boot, and both of them display the start complete message after the login prompt. Something like this: > Starting MySQL > Starting Apache > login: [ OK ] MySQL started > [ OK ] Apache started Although this doesn't break anything it just doesn't look nice. (BTW, I'm not using any DM and getty is set NOT to clear any boot messages) I saw this already reported as a bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54247, but seems there is no fix yet. Can anyone tell me how I might be able to get a clean login prompt? Thanks. -- Sudaraka Wijesinghe.

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[arch-general] Subpixels and append mode in Font Config 2.10
by Martin Panter 23 Nov '12

23 Nov '12

Hi all Yesterday I replaced fontconfig-2.8.0-2 with fontconfig-2.10.1-2, and I noticed that subpixel rendering was no longer working. I can get it working again by restoring mode=“assign" in /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf, but I would like to understand why the new package’s mode=“append” does not work, or if there is a simpler way I could be doing this. The 2.10 config file has this giant comment and append line, which is not particularly illuminating for me:  <edit name="rgba" mode="append"><const>rgb</const></edit> It is apparently all a result of this bug, “Don’t overwrite user’s configurations in default config”: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17722 I’m not intentionally running any Gnome of KDE configuration, assuming that’s what they mean by “major desktop environments”. I have verified subpixels aren’t rendering in Scite (a text editor using GTK 2) using a magnifying glass :P on the number 7. I also noticed the fonts changed in Firefox, and “gitk” (which uses TK). I just removed ~/.fontconfig/ (to no effect), and don’t seem to have any other files starting with “font” in my home directory, nor ~/.config/ (assuming that’s what $XDG_CONFIG_HOME means). Does anyone know of any other place that could set the subpixel mode, or prevent my setting from taking effect? Is there some simple Font Config program that could help debug this? Thanks for any help or pointers -Martin

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[arch-general] USB 3G Modem: no remote host reachable, while connection (seems to) establish correctly
by Sebastian Lipp 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

Hey there! I've got a problem with my Huawei E220 (not entirely sure about this) 3G modem stick. It used to work for several days without any issues but someone closed my laptop's lid so that it slept away and since I can't reach any remote machine. Everything seems to be normal, even the "defaulting to 10.64.64.64" message by pppd is in the logs from times it worked... I played around with the routes but was not able to solve my problem. pppd connects successfully and sets the routes and DNS servers. Interesting is that I don't get answers to any ping. Even the DNS servers don't answer but my machine resolves domain names. Putting for example googles DNS server 8.8.8.8 into /etc/resov.conf doesn't help. I even tried to kick wvdial by following <https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/3G_and_GPRS_modems_with_pppd_alone>. Everything seems to work identically. The problem is also the same. I dont't know how to solve this problem. Perhaps someone here can help me. Below are those informations I thought would be helpful. I will happily provide any further information that might help. Thanks in advance. [bacuh@eee ~]$ dmesg [12585.668857] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 9 using ehci_hcd [12585.809389] option 1-1:1.0: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected [12585.809795] usb 1-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB0 [12585.810369] option 1-1:1.1: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected [12585.810645] usb 1-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB1 [12585.811697] scsi17 : usb-storage 1-1:1.2 [12585.813594] scsi18 : usb-storage 1-1:1.3 [12586.817410] scsi 17:0:0:0: CD-ROM HUAWEI Mass Storage 2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [12586.822239] scsi 18:0:0:0: Direct-Access HUAWEI MMC Storage 2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [12586.828280] sr0: scsi-1 drive [12586.835202] sr 17:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 [12586.837277] sd 18:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk [bacuh@eee ~]$ cat /etc/wvdial.conf [Dialer aldi_mf] Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 #Init1 = AT+CPIN=XXXX # not used anymore Init2 = ATZ Init3 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 Init4 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet.eplus.de" Stupid Mode = 1 Modem Type = Analog Modem Phone = *99***1# ISDN = 0 Username = eplus Dial Command = ATDT Password = gprs Baud = 460800 [bacuh@eee ~]$ sudo wvdial aldi_mf [sudo] password for bacuh: --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.61 --> Initializing modem. --> Sending: ATZ ATZ OK --> Sending: ATZ ATZ OK --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 OK --> Sending: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet.eplus.de" AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet.eplus.de" OK --> Modem initialized. --> Sending: ATDT*99***1# --> Waiting for carrier. ATDT*99***1# CONNECT --> Carrier detected. Starting PPP immediately. --> Starting pppd at Tue Nov 20 15:37:04 2012 --> Pid of pppd: 13809 --> Using interface ppp0 --> local IP address 10.140.52.61 --> remote IP address 10.64.64.64 --> primary DNS address 212.23.115.132 --> secondary DNS address 212.23.115.148 [bacuh@eee ~]$ sudo tail /var/log/messages.log Nov 20 15:37:04 localhost pppd[13809]: pppd 2.4.5 started by bacuh, uid 0 Nov 20 15:37:04 localhost pppd[13809]: Using interface ppp0 Nov 20 15:37:04 localhost pppd[13809]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyUSB0 Nov 20 15:37:04 localhost pppd[13809]: CHAP authentication succeeded Nov 20 15:37:04 localhost pppd[13809]: CHAP authentication succeeded Nov 20 15:37:06 localhost pppd[13809]: Could not determine remote IP address: defaulting to 10.64.64.64 Nov 20 15:37:06 localhost pppd[13809]: local IP address 10.140.52.61 Nov 20 15:37:06 localhost pppd[13809]: remote IP address 10.64.64.64 Nov 20 15:37:06 localhost pppd[13809]: primary DNS address 212.23.115.132 Nov 20 15:37:06 localhost pppd[13809]: secondary DNS address 212.23.115.148 [bacuh@eee ~]$ route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 ppp0 10.64.64.64 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 ppp0 [bacuh@eee ~]$ ping google.de PING google.de (173.194.34.95) 56(84) bytes of data. ^C --- google.de ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3999ms [bacuh@eee ~]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 212.23.115.132 nameserver 212.23.115.148 -- basti

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[arch-general] Weird GTK+ open directory chooser dialog behaviour
by Robbie Smith 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

Hi list I don’t recall when this started occurring (as most applications that open files open them one at a time so I seldom come across it), but the directory selection dialog seems to always open my home directory regardless of what I navigate to. The programs that spawn the dialog subsequently crash, as they’re trying to open *every file in my home directory* instead of a specific directory. Googling found no results except for [1] on our forum, and the OP thinks it has to do with wxWidgets, but I get this behaviour with every GTK directory open dialog. Has anyone encountered this? Or is my computer also somewhat beserk? [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=146064

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[arch-general] qemu vs. qemu-kvm
by Jameson 21 Nov '12

21 Nov '12

If I'm not mistaken, there is no longer any substantial difference between these packages is there? Thanks. =-Jameson

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