November 2012 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [RFC] The path to lua 5.2
by Bastien Dejean 03 Nov '12

03 Nov '12

Sébastien Luttringer: > Waiting last words on package naming, lua and lua51 are available here [1]. > > [1] http://pkgbuild.com/~seblu/ With the lua 5.2 test package installed, one of my packages[2] fails to build at the *configure* stage: Checking for library lua >= 5.2... no Checking for library lua5.2 >= 5.2... no I've notified the author who thinks it is an upstream issue[3]. [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54174 [3] https://code.google.com/p/gpick/issues/detail?id=90

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[arch-general] Kernel 3.6.x panic
by Guillermo Leira 02 Nov '12

02 Nov '12

Hello! I have upgraded a system from Linux 3.5.6 to 3.6.4, and now I get a kernel panic on boot. It's an i686 system. I have tried to download to 3.6.3 and 3.6.2, and they also panic. 3.5.6 boots fine, but I had to remove nvidia and virtualbox. Then upgraded again to 3.6.4, got the kernel panic, and downgraded again (just to discard nvidia or virtualbox) I don't know how to solve this. Messages in screen seem to be related to scsi. I have removed an Adaptec card, but it makes no difference. I can't get (or can't find) a log, but there are things like: Oops: 0000 [#2] PREEMPT SMP Process scsi_eh_2 (pid: 57, ... A lot of lines with references to libata and pata_acpi. This is the hardware seen by lspci. 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Memory Controller Hub (rev 04) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL PCI Express Root Port (rev 04) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02) 00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d2) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GS] (rev a1) 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8050 PCI-E ASF Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15) 06:01.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) 06:02.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 (rev 0c) The processor is an old P4 HT. Has been working fine for years, and still does with the previous kernel. Any ideas? Thanks, Guillermo Leira

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[arch-general] What is FONT_MAP for?
by "Jérôme M. Berger" 02 Nov '12

02 Nov '12

Hi, I've looked in the wiki, but I cannot find what FONT_MAP is for. This wiki page seems to confuse it with the keymap: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts#Console_fonts since it says "Now, set the proper keymap, [...]: FONT_MAP=...". However, I thought the keymap was configured with "KEYMAP=...". My system appears to work with: KEYMAP="fr-latin1" FONT="ter-122b" FONT_MAP="" I can't type accented characters in the console (neither the text consoles F1-F6, nor the X terminals like urxvt or konsole) but those characters are displayed fine when I cat a UTF-8 file. Not a big issue, just curious. So what is FONT_MAP for? Thanks, Jerome -- mailto:jeberger@free.fr http://jeberger.free.fr Jabber: jeberger(a)jabber.fr

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[arch-general] GDM is unable to choose language
by Rodrigo Rivas 02 Nov '12

02 Nov '12

Hello, list! After the recent upgrade to GNOME 3.6 I've been having weird characters in the gnome-terminal. For example, if I run "pstree" the tree lines are all changed into ????. After some debugging I traced the problem to a bogus GDM_LANG value (en_GB.utf8) passed to the session launcher by GDM. The curious thing is that the GDM greeter doesn't show any control to choose the language... it's making it up! That locale doesn't even exist in my machine. Now, I can change the LANG variable back to a sane value in a "/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/01-fix-language" script, but that is just a hack. So, two questions remains: 1. Doesn't the GDM greeter have a language chooser any more? 2. From where is GDM reading the GDM_LANG value? Thank you in advance. -- Rodrigo.

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[arch-general] SystemD: Is there a way to disable PrivateTmp globally?
by "Jérôme M. Berger" 02 Nov '12

02 Nov '12

Hi, Is there a way to disable Private Tmp globally? I know I can disable it by copying all the affected unit files to /etc/systemd and removing it there but is there a way to disable it once and for all? The reasons I want to disable it are: - I don't need it: this is a single user machine that sits behind a firewall and doesn't run any publicly available servers, so the security issues that private tmp solves are not important for this machine; - I want to know where the files are, and I especially do not want them in a tmpfs. According to the docs I was able to find, private tmp is implemented using "kernel namespace" but that tells me nothing about where the data is stored; - I want to be able to access those files for debugging purposes. For example, I have some custom Apache modules that dump debug information to files in /tmp and I need to be able to access them. However, I haven't found any way to access the private tmp of a service, even as root. Thanks, Jerome -- mailto:jeberger@free.fr http://jeberger.free.fr Jabber: jeberger(a)jabber.fr

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[arch-general] libtirpc from testing breaks login
by Arthur Titeica 02 Nov '12

02 Nov '12

Hello, Just a heads up. It seems that the upgrade to libtirpc 0.2.2-3 from testing breaks systemd- logind/pam and logging in to the system is not possible except in rescue mode. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32308 -- Arthur Titeica

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[arch-general] systemd + crypttab
by André Vitor de Lima Matos 01 Nov '12

01 Nov '12

Hi. I've a system where there's a harddisk encrypted with luks and a lvm pv over it, used for backup. This disk is never removed or inserted while system is online, but not in every boot up it's present. Setting this volume in crypttab, when disk is absent, cryptsetup service hangs for several seconds, before timing out and allowing systemd to complete boot. There's any way of avoiding this, may be putting it to background, or something like this? Thanks,

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[arch-general] shorewall-init
by Paul Gideon Dann 01 Nov '12

01 Nov '12

Hi all, Does anyone know if the shorewall-init feature of shorewall (to deal better with interfaces going up and down) has been packaged somehow? I'm not seeing any indication of the associated configuration files, although the shorewall- init manpage exists. See the following for more info: http://www.shorewall.net/Shorewall-init.html Paul

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[arch-general] PowerDNS systemd script
by Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 01 Nov '12

01 Nov '12

Does anyone have a systemd unit for pdns? -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)

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[arch-general] A systemd less Linux alternative to Arch is hard to find but exists
by Kevin Chadwick 01 Nov '12

01 Nov '12

Forgot a change Tom requested, please reject previous if not too late! > I'm sure I will > have to switch to systemd on all my systems eventually, but I don't > give up that easily ;-) For those looking for many of the plusses of Arch, you may want to check out Sabayon. The forums say there are no other distros akin enough to Arch, and that you will be stuck with systemd eventually anyway but I disagree and you may be surprised about what Sabayon offers and the similarities to Arch. ______________ Similarities ______________ Bleeding edge many binary packages (>10,000) and the entire Gentoo Source repo (>30,000) For pro audio on Gentoo Ralf you may be interested in this and the ease of compilation customisations rather than hacks, though I have no experience with the info in this link myself, yet. http://audiodef.com/projects.php?project_id=1 ___________ Benefits ___________ optional pre-built hardened packages in the main repo Intended to be customised compilation control via Gentoo Use Flags (especially useful if you don't like all the default flashiness and the rainbow of colors and graphics on the console for a particular system or any other package defaults) A script based openrc that I really like by default and systemd only if you choose it and for the foreseeable future. It may take more work though initially than keeping initscripts on arch currently and is not supported by Sabayon however you may receive help from some on the Gentoo list as setting it up is described here. http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd The advice is to stick to binary (equo) or source (gentoo's emerge) but if you are confident the two are in sync at the time of build/install or you can keep an eye on the versions and compatibility of what you are installing/building, then you can mix the two and gain all the power of Gentoo and it's USE flags without the waste of energy or time and resources for compilation. _______ Cons _______ They recently dropped non-PAE kernel support, so a few pentium Ms from 2005-2007 will not work (Typically the system I happened to want to test it out on and so had to use an older laptop). You don't start with a minimalist system but they have many iso flavours, so one such as server or hardened server should suit as a start, if that's a reason you use arch. The package system is very very cool and colourful, but not as fast as pacman, possibly because it uses both hashes and signatures. I put this mail in for review on the Sabayon list with the following responses. _______________________________________________________________________ >>> Nice to see you like Sabayon. I want to clarify one thing. >>> openrc and systemd only if you choose it and likely to the end of >>> time. Sabayon doesn't provide systemd but you should be able to install it from Portage if you know what you're doing (ie. probably better to use an older version rather than newer one that would require udev update), but keep in mind that packages are built without systemd support (many .service files are provided regardless though). _______________________________________________________________________ >>> I would like to confirm though as I ideally want to stay clear of >>> the... systemd that Sabayon will likely support Openrc for a long time >>> if not forever even if the default is switched before I invest some >>> time in migrating installation scripts etc.. I digged the discussion here on the mailinglist out for you: http://lists.sabayon.org/pipermail/devel/2012-August/008278.html In case you want to read the whole story =) Regards, Andre -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________

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