January 2013 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] Steam License
by Lone_Wolf 31 Jan '13

31 Jan '13

https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2013-January/024354… In that thread on arch-dev-public, the license from valve for the steam client is discussed. Sofar noone mentioned section C4, export controls. 4. Export Controls. The Program may not be re-exported, downloaded or otherwise exported into (or to a national or resident of) any country to which the U.S. has embargoed goods, or to anyone on the U.S. Treasury Departments list of Specially Designated Nationals or the U.S. Commerce Departments Table of Denial Orders. By installing the Program, you are agreeing to the foregoing and you are representing and warranting that you are not located in, under the control of, or a national or resident of any such country or on any such list. IANAL, but I very much doubt that if steam is put in the repos we can be sure arch doesn't violate this clause. LW

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Drop VI from [core] (was Re: Winter Cleanup of [community])
by Mika Fischer 31 Jan '13

31 Jan '13

[Replying to arch-general since I'm not allowed to post to arch-dev-public] On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Alexander Rødseth <rodseth(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It's not a given that a vi clone is the most desirable replacement. If an > editor that is not a vi clone should be preferred, now or in the future, a > symlink named vi looks funny. How about splitting out a vim-vi-compat (or whatever you want to name it) package that just contains the /usr/bin/vim -> /usr/bin/vi symlink. This could then provide 'vi' and conflict with it. This way people can replace /usr/bin/vi with whatever vi package they want easily, while being able to keep vim, if they want. Best, Mika

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[arch-general] Anybody using Linux as an audio production environment?
by Ralf Mardorf 30 Jan '13

30 Jan '13

Hi :) there's a poll about what distro Linux audio users prefer for audio work. It would be nice, if the voter turnout would increase. If some of you are subscribed to other distro's mailing lists, please announce this poll to those lists too. "I just want to know what distros are you using in 2013, it would be helpful for programmers and help newbies to choose. The Survey: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGdNUUltUzZ2ZGpqa2RZdm… Results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtrwZ7irPN7TdGdNUUltUzZ2ZGpqa2… " - http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2013-January/089753.… Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] signature from "Thorsten Tpper <xxx@xxx.xxx>" is unknown trust
by Sudaraka Wijesinghe 29 Jan '13

29 Jan '13

error: libdbi: signature from "Thorsten T��pper <atsutane(a)freethoughts.de>" is unknown trust error: libdbi-drivers: signature from "Thorsten T��pper <atsutane(a)freethoughts.de>" is unknown trust error: failed to commit transaction (invalid or corrupted package) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. I already tried removing the keys and recreating them using pacman-key. And also cleared pacman cache so the the package is downloaded again. Does this indicate tampering/file corruption or an expired key? Should I file a bug report? (this is a community package) Thanks. -- Sudaraka Wijesinghe. http://sudaraka.org/

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[arch-general] efi boot kernel file sync - is it still necessary for refind?
by Mike Cloaked 28 Jan '13

28 Jan '13

According to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UEFI_Bootloaders#Sync_EFISTUB_Kernel_i… The recent (and current) version of refind-efi auto-detects efi kernels in /boot and that wiki article says that it is no longer necessary to sync files from /boot/ to /boot/efi/EFI/arch/ Does that mean when first installing arch in a uefi system then it is also no longer necessary to copy the vmlinuz and initramfs files to the EFI /arch/ directory at all? Or is it necessary only once as indicated in the wiki? i.e. is the wiki fully up to date? Thanks. -- mike c

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Silent removal of initscripts?
by G. Schlisio 28 Jan '13

28 Jan '13

Am 28.01.2013 21:28, schrieb Evangelos Foutras: > On 28 January 2013 21:30, Tom Gundersen <teg(a)jklm.no> wrote: >> IMNSHO, it would probably be best to just unequivocally declare the rc >> scripts as dead and unsupported rather than try to play catch-up now. > I agree with this, no half measures. :) > > You made the announcement [1] in early November; title was pretty > clear; time-frame was provided. There's nothing else left to do now > but to drop the initscripts and sysvinit packages. > > [1] https://www.archlinux.org/news/end-of-initscripts-support/ > a new announcement would only make sense for those, who totally slept the whole time. the majority of users sticking with initscripts does not do that because of lack of interest in systemd. my vserver hoster (netcup.de, german provider) does not provide an up-to-date kernel and, although first made aware of the upcoming change in september, now begins beta testing a new virtualization (kvm, linux vserver before). its still some time (up to two month) until i can finally migrate to systemd. i would be very glad, if there was a sysvinit-scripts package for the time beeing. thanks for considering.

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Re: [arch-general] Help with making a bootable usbkey from arch for ssd drive firmware update - RESOLVED
by Mike Cloaked 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Mike Cloaked <mike.cloaked(a)gmail.com>wrote: > If anyone can help or suggest links to solve the following problem I would > appreciate it. > > I have a new system built with an Intel DQ77KB motherboard with a Crucial > mSATA M4 SSD, and a Crucial SATA M4 SSD drive. I want to install arch on > this system and indeed preparing a usbkey with the archiso install media > using dd to write the usbkey boots just fine. > > Also the latest PartedMagic iso written to a usbkey also boots fine so > that I can format the SSD drives (both of them). Looking at the system > profile I can see all the peripherals, including all the RAM and both SSD > drives. > > However before starting the arch install I want to update the firmware on > the SSD drives. This is available from the Crucial website either as a > Windows 7/8 .exe (which I can't use) or a "manual" firmware update file > which is an iso (containing memdisk from syslinux, and a floppy image file > boot2880.img) > > Running the "file" command on the boot2880.img file after loop mounting it > gives: > > # file /mnt/iso/boot/isolinux/boot2880.img > /mnt/iso/boot/isolinux/boot2880.img: x86 boot sector, FREE-DOS Beta 0.9 > Bootloader KERNEL.SYS, code offset 0x3c, OEM-ID "FreeDOS ", sectors/cluster > 2, root entries 240, sectors 5760 (volumes <=32 MB) , sectors/FAT 9, serial > number 0x2b6112fe, label: "BOOTABLE ", FAT (12 bit) > > Writing the iso to a usbkey won't boot - the screen goes blank and nothing > happens when I write the iso to a usbkey with a FAT32 key with the boot > flag. I have tried isolinux and that does not seem to work. I have tried a > bootable grub2 usbkey and that does not work - all are prepared from a > working arch linux laptop. > > I have following numerous "recipes" for making the usbkey from various > sources on the web and none seem to work at all! > > The odd thing is that for syslinux I can't even get a menu item on the > screen when booting the key - nor for grub 2. > > I have used two different makes of usbkey - both 4GB....same result - and > both keys will boot fine with the archiso or PartedMagic. > > I don't know if I am doing something fundamentally stupid but this is > driving me nuts! I have used gparted, as well as fdisk, as well as trying > parted to reformat the usbkeys. Nothing I do seems to work! > > There must be a good step-by-step guide somewhere on how to get a usbkey > with sysylinux to boot the firmware updater - which seems to have a floppy > image file (boot2880.img) and uses memdisk to boot it - though the version > on the iso file is about two year old whereas arch current memdisk in > syslinux is up to date. > > If anyone can help advise on how to make a bootable usbkey to execute > this, I would really appreciate it. > > Thanks in advance. > > I raised this issue above about two weeks ago - and finally tonight resolved the problem. I checked on the Intel site for BIOS updates for my motherboard (DQ77KB) - and it turned out that Intel has in the interim released a new BIOS version 048 which has a bunch of fixes including " Updated VBIOS to fix issue where there is no display in DOS." After installing the new BIOS I was able to update the SSD drive firmware without any problem at all - so it seems that whatever method I tried to boot the firmware update which is DOS based would have failed until the BIOS was updated! So I am a happy bunny again with current Crucial SSD drive firmware! -- mike c

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[arch-general] community/vlock vs core/kbd vlock
by Fredrik Eriksson 25 Jan '13

25 Jan '13

Hi, I used to rely on xautolock + community/vlock for locking my X session, core/kbd however removed community/vlock in favor of its own vlock which lack the functionality I need. Besides -a -a,--all Lock all console sessions and disable VC switching. not working This tty (pts/5) is not a virtual console. The entire console display cannot be locked. I also used -n and -s -n,--new Switch to a new virtual console before locking all console sessions. -s,--disable-sysrq Disable the SysRq mechanism while consoles are locked. This option only works if the -a,--all option given. that the new vlock is lacking. Not wanting to revert to slock I reworked community/vlock into my system in a foul manner I'm not going to mention here. I've also read https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/33134 http://www.spinics.net/lists/util-linux-ng/msg07153.html https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156308 http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-203953.html :D I'm not sure what my question should be, really, but I would like to be able to use the 2.2.3 functionality (-ans) without having an ugly hacky setup. Regards, -- Fredrik

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Drop VI from [core] (was Re: Winter Cleanup of [community])
by Paul Gideon Dann 25 Jan '13

25 Jan '13

On Friday 25 Jan 2013 00:14:14 Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > There is nothing stopping us dropping vi completely and just putting vim > > on the install media... > > I'd favor that (as a vim user who always gets confused by vi on the > install media). > > -t +1 I do "pacman -S vim" pretty quickly if there's any serious file tweaking to be done on install. I'd be in favour of a more advanced "newby-friendly" editor, too, for people that don't know Vim. Nano is pretty limited. It does make sense to me to have several options available, since we depend on text editing so much for installation. Paul

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[arch-general] Partition/Data rescue
by archlinuxmailings＠gmail.com 25 Jan '13

25 Jan '13

Hi You know the moment where you would turn back the time some seconds only? Well here we are... I got a perfectly running arch on ssd (6 partitions) and an internal hdd (1partition) with a backup usb disk (1partition) connected at a very genious moment! Having done a SD-multiboot setup with several distros I just wanted to test that the last distro added (DBAN Dariks Boot and nume) boots fine. Only little thing to mention was that --autonuke setting at boot loader. Don't ask me what was riding me, maybe tiredness, stupidness, something evil or altogether! As fast as I swiched the system off it erased at least some sectors on each and every disk! Well, DBAN worked. But how can I get back to something running? At least I would like the backup disk running but I am not sure what is the correct way. I don't have another backup and uploading to Amazon S3 was not yet finished, so disaster recovery would have worked only later.... How I hate Murphy today! For the procedure: Testdisk showed me at least 6 possible partitioning (having had one on this disk!) schemes and just creating the partition with fdisk and not touching the filesystem wouldn't give me my TOC back, no? Using gparted would recreate the filesystem resulting in overwritten data? Do I need to use an ext-restoring rool or what is best to try? First copying the data off to a second external disk with "dd"? And then? I would really appreciate some experienced users feedback as some of the missing data means a lot to me although knowing that there are more important things lime health etc. Thanks in advance! emak

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