Arch-general August 2016

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[arch-general] Announcing pacpak
by pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

Hello, A specter is haunting the GNU/Linux ecosystem: the specter of per-user containerization. Software like Flatpak and Snappy promise fully sandboxed GNU/Linux application bundles (instead of merely launching an application with fewer privileges but without hiding the operating system, like Bubblewrap or Firejail do). Bundles ship with the version of their dependencies which they need. Dependencies are not force-upgraded with the operating system, but easily upgradable by the bundle creator. The same files in different bundles and versions are deduplicated to save space. Applications can be containerized once for all modern GNU/Linux operating systems. Unlike Docker, Flatpak works without root privileges. Flatpak allows you to run, say, a sandboxed and containerized copy of LibreOffice where opening an infected file can only cause harm to what the sandbox has access to, but not compromise the integrity of the system as a whole. Untrustworthy games can be isolated and run without fear of a system compromise. More generally, most GUI applications should probably be installed to and run from a Flatpak sandbox. This has major implications for traditional package managers. Pacman would be demoted to providing the base system on top of which Flatpak bundles downloaded from elsewhere are run (e.g. from gnome.org or from reallytheofficialwebsiteoflibreofficeipromise.com). However, I would prefer having a unified pacman-like interface for installing containerized and non-containerized applications. I believe a PKGBUILD is a good way to specify how to build an application for Flatpak as well. I do not want to lose the many packages from Arch and derivative distributions. tl;dr: Therefore I started writing a tool called pacpak which uses pacman to populate Flatpak application bundles. Its interface is meant to be similar to pacman’s. For example, in order to install gedit into a Flatpak application using a bundle of the gnome packages as a runtime, you install pacpak from the AUR and use: $ pacpak -S Base xterm You can run the resulting application like this: $ flatpak run $(hostname).app.xterm pacpak is still in its early alpha stages. I do not currently have the time to devote more than a day per week to its development. However, I’d like some feedback on the basic idea. I am also looking for a home for the project in the longer term, since I do not currently like to administer a bug tracker on my own rented server and dislike centralizing all free software development on GitHub or Sourceforge (I’d rather administer my own then). This will only be helpful once all the basic features are implemented of course. I would be glad if pacpak or a similar tool eventually becomes an official Arch project. Let me conclude by thanking those who develop Flatpak, those who package and maintain Flatpak for Arch and all the other Arch and free software developers we rely on. Regards, Florian Pelz

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[arch-general] Laptop cooling fan does not work
by Peter Nabbefeld 29 Aug '16

29 Aug '16

Hello, since my latest update (containing linux kernel) my cooling fan does not work any more - what can I do? Kind regards Peter

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[arch-general] [PATCH] core/linux: symlink current documentation on kernel upgrade
by Quint Guvernator 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

Hi all, Currently, Linux documentation provided by the linux-docs package is installed in /usr/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/Documentation. We like documentation in /usr/share/doc 'round these parts, as per the Packaging Guidelines. Additionally, symlinking in the package means that users always have a path to the latest kernel documentation, without having to fiddle around with uname. Patch attached. Please let me know if I should be submitting this on a different list, or if there are formatting problems. Cheers, Quint

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[arch-general] interested in becoming a TU
by Storm Dragon 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

Howdy, I am interested in becoming a TU. I have several packages in the AUR, including magic-wormhole{,-git}, rndsig, libsonic-git, rsgames, etc. My main area of interested, in maintinaing packages as a TU, would be accessibility related items, E.G. orca, speech-dispatcher, espeakup. Before I actually apply, I'd like to get some feedback from an already existing TU, to make sure I have the required skillset, and just get some general pointers. If anyone is willing to help and eventually sponsor me, please contact me off list. Thanks Storm -- Powered by Arch Linux! I am registered Linux user number 508465: https://linuxcounter.net/user/508465.html My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.tk/ get my public PGP key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 43DDC193 Twitter and Facebook are so ... yesteryear. Get your 2MB Social account TODAY! http://2mb.social/main/register Get paid to read email: http://is.gd/feRiB "Brains for dinner, brains for lunch, brains for breakfast, brains for brunch. Brains at every single meal, why can't we have some guts?" The Misfits - Braineaters

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[arch-general] Unable to release package
by Nicola Squartini 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

Hi, Trying to release electron-1.3.4-1, I issued /community/db-update on repos.archlinux.org but I get: ==> WARNING: Repo [community] (i686) is already locked by sourceballs. -> Retrying in 10 seconds... repeating. Is there something wrong with the db? Nicola

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[arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?
by Hunter Connelly 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

Recently, Microsoft released the source code for PowerShell under the MIT license. Here's the link for that. https://github.com/powershell/powershell I was wondering what you guys thought about it. Specifically, if any of you will be using it, if you think it should be in the main repos, what this might mean for the future, etc.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Signoff report for [testing] - KDE pacman install errors
by Genes Lists 21 Aug '16

21 Aug '16

On Sun, 2016-08-21 at 08:07 +0000, Arch Website Notification wrote: > === Signoff report for [testing] === > https://www.archlinux.org/packages/signoffs/ > > There are currently: > * 402 new packages in last 24 hours > * 0 known bad packages > * 0 packages not accepting signoffs > * 12 fully signed off packages > * 414 packages missing signoffs > * 4 packages older than 14 days > > Tried to update today but I am getting the following errors: :: Starting full system upgrade... :: Replace akonadi-contact with testing/akonadi-contacts? [Y/n] :: Replace kdegraphics-kolourpaint with testing/kolourpaint? [Y/n] :: Replace kdesdk-cervisia with testing/cervisia? [Y/n] :: Replace kdeutils-kdf with testing/kdf? [Y/n] resolving dependencies... looking for conflicting packages... :: kldap and kio-pim are in conflict. Remove kio-pim? [y/N] y error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: kde-meta-kdegraphics: removing kdegraphics-kolourpaint breaks dependency 'kdegraphics-kolourpain t' :: kde-meta-kdesdk: removing kdesdk-cervisia breaks dependency 'kdesdk- cervisia' :: kde-meta-kdeutils: removing kdeutils-kdf breaks dependency 'kdeutils-kdf' Trying to say 'no' to kde-pim leads to this error: :: kldap and kio-pim are in conflict. Remove kio-pim? [y/N] error: unresolvable package conflicts detected error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: kldap and kio-pim are in conflict -- Gene lists(a)sapience.com

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[arch-general] Is ncurses in Arch Linux out-dated?
by Chi Hsuan Yen 21 Aug '16

21 Aug '16

Hi Archers, ncurses 6.0 is released in 2015/08/08. It has some bugs and part of them are fixed. For example, I was just hit by http://bugs.python.org/issue27323. On bug-ncurses mailing list there are some patch versions. The latest one is 6.0-20160820: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-ncurses/2016-08/msg00010.html. If I want to fix the aforementioned Python issue, should Arch Linux 1) Bump the ncurses package to 6.0-20160820, or 2) Just backport the relevant patch For 1), I just need to flag to package out-of-date, for 2), I have to submit a bug and request backporting. Any similar cases in other packages? Best, Yen Chi Hsuan

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[arch-general] Pacman Hooks
by Jayesh Badwaik 21 Aug '16

21 Aug '16

Hi, I have been trying to write some hooks for my pacman and so, I search the internet for it. I could not find any documentation on it, apart from some examples and a blog post on Allan McRae's blog. I was wondering if there is such a documentation or not? -- Cheers Jayesh Badwaik

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[arch-general] Mutt Compile-time Configuration
by Dutch Ingraham 20 Aug '16

20 Aug '16

Hello all: Mutt 1.7.0 was just released.[1] One new feature is the sidebar, which up to now required a patched version of mutt from the AUR. However, it is a compile-time option and it appears as though the Arch packager has decided to not enable it (my muttrc will throw an error if I try and configure the sidebar.) Can someone more familiar than myself explain why a packager would decide to do this? In other words, what are the general considerations for including certain options at compile-time? (In this particular case, the sidebar would not be turned on until configured in the muttrc, so compiling the option into the package would not affect those who do not want it.) Thanks for your replies. [1]https://marc.info/?l=mutt-users&m=147154326009383

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