October 2024 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

Bring ARM into the fold?
by Christer Solskogen 20 Apr '26

20 Apr '26

Is it time to bring Arch Linux ARM into the fold of Arch Linux? The GNU toolchain of ALARM is now very behind, and the developers are dead silent about why. There little to no response on pull requests on the github page, and while it seems like there is activity on their PKGBUILDs repo, it almost seems to me that it is some kind of automatic jobs being run. Their forum is broken and has been broken for quite some time as well. -- chs

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[arch-general] System terribly slow
by riveravaldez 27 Oct '25

27 Oct '25

Hi, I'm looking for some advice trying to pinpoint why or where my system has becoming almost unusable slow. Searching the web I've found some hints but nothing precise enough. Maybe it's a failing HDD, but I'm first posting what I have until now in the hope someone can give some advice. Superficial symptoms are a general slowness. I'm using just IceWM and `startx` to initialize the GUI, and even logging into my account previous to that takes almost a minute to get done. Then any application I launch takes minutes to just start (from IceWM to firefox, from qtox to pcmanfm or geany, etc.). Even navigate the folders tree with pcmanfm takes 10 or more seconds just to show any folder content... Hope some of this helps: $ sudo journalctl -b -exp3 -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 19:50:29 -03. -- dic 03 00:48:43 arch kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Asking for cache data failed dic 03 00:48:43 arch kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through dic 03 00:50:39 arch libvirtd[592]: cannot open directory '/home/dell/Software/VMs/TrisquelMini8': No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:50:39 arch libvirtd[592]: error interno: Falló al iniciar automáticamente el grupo de almacenamiento 'TrisquelMini8': cannot open directory '/home/dell/Softwar> dic 03 00:50:41 arch libvirtd[592]: No se encontró 'dmidecode' en ruta: No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:50:57 arch libvirtd[592]: No se encontró 'dmidecode' en ruta: No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:56:40 arch systemd[1]: Failed to start Disk Manager. Subject: A start job for unit udisks2.service has failed Defined-By: systemd Support: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel A start job for unit udisks2.service has finished with a failure. The job identifier is 1072 and the job result is failed. $ systemctl --state=failed UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB DESCRIPTION 0 loaded units listed. $ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 11.038s (kernel) + 1min 31.352s (userspace) = 1min 42.391s graphical.target reached after 1min 31.352s in userspace $ systemd-analyze blame 37.946s polkit.service 29.248s dev-sda1.device 28.827s systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service 24.692s udisks2.service 15.936s systemd-journal-flush.service 14.228s systemd-hwdb-update.service 13.930s ldconfig.service 13.502s upower.service 12.881s ufw.service 8.830s user(a)1000.service 7.556s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service 7.280s avahi-daemon.service 7.275s bluetooth.service 7.262s iwd.service 6.067s systemd-logind.service 6.058s systemd-machined.service 5.825s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service 5.123s systemd-sysusers.service 4.569s systemd-udevd.service 4.511s systemd-resolved.service 4.281s systemd-networkd.service 3.724s systemd-journal-catalog-update.service 3.415s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-1d72b82c\x2d9c58\x2d4f57\x2d97a3\x2de29ff35a5632.service 2.959s systemd-modules-load.service 2.557s lm_sensors.service 2.503s systemd-random-seed.service 2.389s systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service 1.983s dev-disk-by\x2duuid-84c91978\x2da09c\x2d4087\x2db60d\x2d86730d142f63.swap 1.967s systemd-backlight@leds:dell::kbd_backlight.service 1.563s systemd-timesyncd.service 1.457s systemd-update-utmp.service 1.287s systemd-udev-trigger.service 1.278s systemd-rfkill.service 1.219s alsa-restore.service 1.164s systemd-sysctl.service (...) $ systemctl status polkit.service ● polkit.service - Authorization Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/polkit.service; static) Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:50:28 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:polkit(8) Main PID: 613 (polkitd) Tasks: 12 (limit: 6993) Memory: 18.9M CPU: 1.032s CGroup: /system.slice/polkit.service └─613 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug dic 03 00:49:50 arch systemd[1]: Starting Authorization Manager... dic 03 00:50:05 arch polkitd[613]: Started polkitd version 0.120 dic 03 00:50:26 arch polkitd[613]: Loading rules from directory /etc/polkit-1/rules.d dic 03 00:50:26 arch polkitd[613]: Loading rules from directory /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d dic 03 00:50:28 arch polkitd[613]: Finished loading, compiling and executing 6 rules dic 03 00:50:28 arch systemd[1]: Started Authorization Manager. dic 03 00:50:28 arch polkitd[613]: Acquired the name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 on the system bus $ systemctl status dev-sda1.device ● dev-sda1.device - Hitachi_HTS545025B9A300 ROOT Follows: unit currently follows state of sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1f.2-ata1-host0-target0:0:0-0:0:0:0-block-sda-sda1.device Loaded: loaded Active: active (plugged) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:49:12 -03; 19h ago Device: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata1/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0/block/sda/sda1 Notice: journal has been rotated since unit was started, output may be incomplete. $ systemctl status systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service ○ systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - Cleanup of Temporary Directories Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service; static) Active: inactive (dead) since Fri 2021-12-03 01:03:52 -03; 19h ago TriggeredBy: ● systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer Docs: man:tmpfiles.d(5) man:systemd-tmpfiles(8) Process: 1473 ExecStart=systemd-tmpfiles --clean (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 1473 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 185ms dic 03 01:03:23 arch systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories... dic 03 01:03:52 arch systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service: Deactivated successfully. dic 03 01:03:52 arch systemd[1]: Finished Cleanup of Temporary Directories. $ systemctl status udisks2.service ● udisks2.service - Disk Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/udisks2.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:59:51 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:udisks(8) Main PID: 1129 (udisksd) Tasks: 5 (limit: 6993) Memory: 3.2M CPU: 23.045s CGroup: /system.slice/udisks2.service └─1129 /usr/lib/udisks2/udisksd dic 03 00:59:26 arch systemd[1]: Starting Disk Manager... dic 03 00:59:26 arch udisksd[1129]: udisks daemon version 2.9.4 starting dic 03 00:59:51 arch systemd[1]: Started Disk Manager. dic 03 00:59:54 arch udisksd[1129]: Acquired the name org.freedesktop.UDisks2 on the system message bus $ systemctl status systemd-journal-flush.service ● systemd-journal-flush.service - Flush Journal to Persistent Storage Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-journal-flush.service; static) Active: active (exited) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:48:59 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:systemd-journald.service(8) man:journald.conf(5) Process: 283 ExecStart=journalctl --flush (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 283 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 15ms dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd[1]: Starting Flush Journal to Persistent Storage... dic 03 00:48:59 arch systemd[1]: Finished Flush Journal to Persistent Storage. $ systemctl status systemd-hwdb-update.service ● systemd-hwdb-update.service - Rebuild Hardware Database Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-hwdb-update.service; static) Active: active (exited) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:48:57 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:hwdb(7) man:systemd-hwdb(8) Process: 279 ExecStart=systemd-hwdb update (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 279 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 1.746s dic 03 00:48:57 arch systemd[1]: Finished Rebuild Hardware Database. $ journalctl -b -u systemd-journald.service -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 20:49:18 -03. -- dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd-journald[271]: Journal started dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd-journald[271]: Runtime Journal (/run/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c) is 8.0M, max 292.4M, 284.4M free. dic 03 00:48:44 arch systemd-journald[271]: Time spent on flushing to /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c is 7.561088s for 798 entries. dic 03 00:48:44 arch systemd-journald[271]: System Journal (/var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c) is 16.0M, max 2.4G, 2.4G free. $ journalctl -b -u systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\\x2duuid-1d72b82c\\x2d9c58\\x2d4f57\\x2d97a3\\x2de29ff35a5632.service -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 20:52:36 -03. -- dic 03 00:49:18 arch systemd[1]: Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1d72b82c-9c58-4f57-97a3-e29ff35a5632... dic 03 00:49:21 arch systemd-fsck[485]: HOME: limpio, 208781/13107200 ficheros, 37165716/52398592 bloques dic 03 00:49:21 arch systemd[1]: Finished File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1d72b82c-9c58-4f57-97a3-e29ff35a5632. $ journalctl --verify PASS: /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/user-1000.journal 3b84d8: Data object's entry array not sorted File corruption detected at /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/system.journal:915878 (of 16777216 bytes, 56%). FAIL: /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/system.journal (Mensaje erróneo) $ journalctl --disk-usage Archived and active journals take up 24.0M in the file system. Maybe it's pertinent to mention that I've just cleaned up /var/log/journal to rule out storage issues. Any help will be most welcome. Thanks a lot in advance.

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Request for review of two merge requests (Fcitx5-Mozc, Fcitx-Mozc)
by Masato TOYOSHIMA 16 Dec '24

16 Dec '24

Hello everyone I've been using Arch Linux in containers and have tried several Arch-based desktops. I'd like to discuss two Japanese input packages that haven't been updated for about two years. I've created merge requests for major upgrades for both packages. Among Japanese input packages, Mozc likely has the most users currently. There are two Mozc packages in the Arch Linux repository: Fcitx5-Mozc and Fcitx-Mozc. While Fcitx5 has become the main development focus, Fcitx-mozc is still packaged in newer distributions. These two packages haven't been updated for about two years. I created merge requests for major upgrades about two weeks ago. I've tried contacting the previous package maintainers and those assigned by bots, but there's been no response. I'm posting here hoping to catch the attention of those with merge permissions. I'd appreciate if you could review the merge requests for these two packages when you have time. As additional information, the original google/mozc has moved to Bazel build for the Linux version. Fcitx5 already supported Bazel build, and Fcitx (fcitx4) has recently added support for it as well. Therefore, both packages can now be built with Bazel without additional patches or PRs. I've been updating the merge requests to keep them aligned with the latest commits. Now that Fcitx(4)'s Bazel support is complete, it seems like a good time for review. Please review the merge requests when possible. I apologize for the long message. Thank you for your consideration. https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fcitx5-mozc/-/mer… https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fcitx-mozc/-/merg…

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What could cause RSS Recent Package Feed to Hang in Thunderbird?
by David C. Rankin 11 Nov '24

11 Nov '24

All, In Thunderbird 128.3.3esr if I check the RSS Recent Package feed from Arch, Thunderbird hangs showing the check is continually ongoing and never finishes. This takes a continual 143% CPU (about 1/3 of the 4-core i-7) It gets the Recent Packages just fine, but never stops. Checking with tcpdump the connection to 95.217.163.246 initializes just fine with the QUIC protocol and then continues with the data transferred. The last message from 95.217.163.246 is a TCP ACK and then nothing else. Thunderbird just shown the little icon next to the feed as busy (little ball going back and forth) and the CPU is pegged at about 150%. (other than just looking at the tcpdump data in Wireshark - it's pretty much Greek to me) There is no way to cancel the check except to "Pause" the RSS feed and then shutdown thunderbird and restart it. If I then "unPause" the RSS feed after restarting tbird, the same thing happened. I've been subscribed to the RSS feed for years. This just started a couple of days ago. What should I check or look for to try and figure out why the RSS feed check never finishes and shuts down? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Sound system not working on Macbook Pro (2017)
by Sadeep Madurange 06 Nov '24

06 Nov '24

Hello, I installed Arch Linux 6.11.1-arch1-1 on a 2017 Macbook Pro with KDE Plasma desktop package (initially installed the plasma-meta and kde-applications-meta, but I've since gotten rid of them). Sound output is not working with the speakers or headphones. KDE shows "No output or input devices found". During my troubleshoot, I ended up removingn pipewire stuff. Now I have pulseaudio, pulseaudio-alsa, and alsa-utils installed. I created a file /etc/modprobe.d/50-sound.conf and added "options snd_hda_intel model=intel-mac-auto" to it (and restarted), but that did not help. I have installed alsa firmware and sof-firmware. The output of lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Iris Plus Graphics 640 (rev 06) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 21) 00:15.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #0 (rev 21) 00:15.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #2 (rev 21) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI #1 (rev 21) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev f1) 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f1) 00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #9 (rev f1) 00:1d.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #10 (rev f1) 00:1e.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO UART Controller #0 (rev 21) 00:1e.3 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO SPI Controller #1 (rev 21) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point LPC/eSPI Controller (rev 21) 00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PMC (rev 21) 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21) 00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SMBus (rev 21) 01:00.0 Mass storage controller: Apple Inc. S3X NVMe Controller (rev 12) 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM4350 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 05) 03:00.0 Multimedia controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries 720p FaceTime HD Camera 04:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge [Alpine Ridge 4C 2015] (rev 02) 05:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge (C step) [Alpine Ridge 4C 2016] (rev 02) 05:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge (C step) [Alpine Ridge 4C 2016] (rev 02) 05:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge (C step) [Alpine Ridge 4C 2016] (rev 02) 05:04.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge (C step) [Alpine Ridge 4C 2016] (rev 02) 06:00.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 NHI (C step) [Alpine Ridge 4C 2016] (rev 02) 07:00.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 USB Controller (C step) [Alpine Ridge 4C 2016] (rev 02) In alsamixer, Card shows as PulseAudio and the master volume is 100%. If I press F6 (to select sound card), the first entry is "- (default)". The second is "default:0 HDA Intel PCH". If I choose the second one, I see S/PDIF, S/PDIF 1, and S/PDIF 2. All of them are unmuted but the volume is 00. I can't increase it. The 00 is in a green square (not a rectangle up to 100%). I can hear the chime when the Macbook starts up, so the hardware is working fine.

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Status of package superslicer
by Björn Försterling 30 Oct '24

30 Oct '24

Hi, was the package "superslicer" removed from pacman? $ sudo pacman -Ss superslicer $ echo $? 1 Also I cannot find the package "slic3r" as well. The only slicer that pacman supports now seems to be the "prusa- slicer". Does anyone know why these packages where removed? Regards Björn

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Nextcloud - Archlinux packaged apps verse Nextcloud store - What is the difference?
by David C. Rankin 23 Oct '24

23 Oct '24

Devs, I've used nextcloud in Arch for a couple of years. When I installed, it was just the Nextcloud webapp that was available and the applications were packaged by nextcloud with additional apps available in the nextcloud store. Now there are "nextcloud-app-xxxx" packages provided by Archlinux, e.g. nextcloud-app-bookmarks nextcloud-app-calendar nextcloud-app-contacts nextcloud-app-main nextcloud-app-news nextcloud-app-notes nextcloud-app-spreed Did something change that now means I should be installing the nextcloud-app-xxxx packages instead of the apps that are already in Nextcloud? The wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Nextcloud is silent on the packaged apps. Are they different from what is available in the nextcloud store? Better? Just trying to figure out why they are packaged and if I should switch to them. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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About AUR accreditation policy
by Óscar García Amor 22 Oct '24

22 Oct '24

Hello foks, I tell you, about 8 hours ago a package that Radu C. Martin and I were maintaining (textpieces) was moved from the AUR to extra. In this movement (which seems perfect to us, every package officially maintained is welcome and better than this in the AUR) our names have disappeared[1]. I don't want you to misunderstand me, I'm not crying foul about this, but it doesn't seem fair to me that the person (or persons) who kept the package for a while until it became official is not credited. If we in the AUR keep the names of those who preceded us in the maintenance of the package, I understand that when a package moves from the AUR to an official repository the same should happen. This happens when a package is dropped to AUR. I don't know if there is a directive for this, but if not, maybe it's time to write one. And as I said, I don't mind that my name doesn't appear as a contributor right now (I keep my AUR packages for myself and for people to benefit from it, not for fame or similar nonsense), but I do find it a bit ugly that the effort involved in doing that work is not recognized, and not by me, but by everyone. Greetings. PS: I would not want accusations or ugly things to come out of this. I just want to note that there should be a policy that the AUR maintainer's work should be credited when a package is moved to an official repository. [1]: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/textpieces/-/blob… -- Óscar García Amor | ogarcia at moire.org | http://ogarcia.me

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Arch Linux stuck on legacy iptables by default
by Martin Rys 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

Arch Linux still uses the legacy iptables backend, as opposed to the nft backend that every other distribution uses. This has been reported since 2021 with no response: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/iptables/-/issues… To me it looks like a direct, simple migration, and it just needs someone with the needed perms to look at it, but I could be wrong. It's assigned to the notoriously overburdened Felix, is there anything a non-core member can do, other than wait? It's not a *large* issue, it's just mildly annoying to have workarounds in my deploys, as it is installed on any system due to iproute2 needing an iptables backend, and some things just outright don't work with that, requiring the nft one. Thanks, Martin

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Network Issues After Pacman Upgrade
by Björn Försterling 14 Oct '24

14 Oct '24

Hello, I just ran a "pacman -Syu" and am having issues with the internet connection. I have around 10 seconds with a working connection to the internet followed by 10 seconds without being able to establish a connection. For 10 seconds I am able to curl google.com or telnet its port 443, and then I get blocked for 10 seconds. There was an update to "networkmanager": [2024-10-13T15:39:41+0200] [ALPM] upgraded networkmanager (1.48.10-1 -> 1.50.0-1) Could this be the cause? Does anyone else experience similar problems? I had the same problem a few weeks ago. Regards Björn

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