On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Heiko Baums <lists@baums-on-web.de> wrote:
I have the impression that you are one of those systemd fanboys, and just don't want to hear that systemd and PA have a lot of serious issues.
Issues, serious or otherwise, belong in the bug-tracker. We have surprisingly few systemd/pulseaudio bugs open, considering all the noise they create on the ML.
Why don't you just delete the things you don't want?
Why are those things, which I don't need and want, installed? Why am I forced to have this systemd stuff installed? And what, if I delete them manually? Shall I always delete them again and again after every system update? Sorry, that's not the way to go.
Sorry, I didn't realise you were being serious. Of course you shouldn't delete them. If you don't use systemd they have no effect, and take hardly no space.
Like I said before, if you would support systemd, sytemd-tools and everything else related to systemd totally optional, and keep initscripts pure initscripts without any systemd stuff like it was before, I would say nothing. But since you really force the users to install this systemd stuff, you will have to live with such comments, and not only from me, as you should know.
I don't force anyone to do anything. If you see flaws in anything I do, then provide review, patches or bug reports. If you don't like the direction I'm taking initscripts in, then fork it and provide your competing version. To be clear: it has always been my plan to make initscripts and systemd as close to each other as possible and share as much code as possible. I strongly believe this is the right thing to do. If you disagree, then I think your time is better spent at coding a replacement rather than at whining. -t