On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Maximilian Bräutigam <m@xbra.de> wrote:
Am 19.04.2014 12:39, schrieb Lorenzo Bandieri:
Hi list,
Sometimes packages are silently dropped from the repos. This happened for example in the last few days with mash 0.2.0-3, which apparently I installed as a dependency for gnome (I guess it is no longer required). I follow arch-general, arch-dev-public and aur-general, and as far as I know, this change wasn't announced in any of these lists. I recall other examples in the last 2-3 years (this is roughly the time I've used arch consistently), but now I don't remember the packages involved.
Currently I try to keep track of these changes by running e.g. "pacman -Qm" and "pacman -Qdt" once in a while, so it's no big deal. However, I think it would be interesting to know from a more "official" channel when a package is dropped and why. This would allow users to be aware of the change and decide whether the package is still needed (and act accordingly, e.g. if the package is dropped to AUR, one could subscribe to comments or check for updates) or can be safely uninstalled.
I searched without finding anything decisive (e.g. these threads [1] [2] suggest possible workarounds in the form of scripts). I wonder if better methods to track dropped packages exist; if not, would it be feasible to implement a solution, e.g. a list where dropped packages are announced, similar to "last rites" in gentoo?
Thanks for your time,
Lorenzo
[1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=147574 [2] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125665
Hi Lorenzo,
I am using yaourt to track packages from aur (and possibly packages moved from official repos to aur). Note, that it is not an official peace of software and you should read the wiki carefully. [1]
Best wishes, Max
List the packages that are in the repos and compare these lists to see what new packages are in the repos and which ones have been dropped. You can use expac to format the list the way you like it and run it daily / weekly. If you're using testing repos you should make sure you won't get flooded by the list of new packages twice - when they enter testing and when they're moved to non-testing repos. Packages "disappearing" from testing repos would be false positives when looking for the ones that have been removed completely. I think the easiest way would be to drop the repo name and keep just the package name, unless you care if the package is moved between repos e.g. from extra to community.