On 02/11/2018 06:46 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 02/11/2018 04:48 PM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
There have been numerous forum posts, mailing list threads, IRC discussions, Reddit discussions, Twitter discussions, and for all I know Linux User Group conventions discussing the issue ad nauseam -- and by this I mean to say that this raft of discussion across all forms of social media, happens on an individual level for each new Trusted User, every single time. Without fail.
Thank you for not hacking me :)
If there have been social media discussion on it, then I would never see them. I'm 51, not a bird, I don't tweet, etc... When faced with a "this looks like an Arch problem" (or any other distro problem), after 20 years of experience the resounding proper place to address it is to the distros mailing list - to determining if it can be confirmed and a bug is needed, or, for answer, since there will be no other social whatever that knows more about Arch, than Arch.
I sympathize with the idea, and I'm supposedly one of those young adult types that are thought to only exist on twitter :p I know that twitter mentions it because Morten Linderud mentioned this rant in IRC: https://twitter.com/kaihendry/status/920833500135047168 Otherwise I wouldn't know as I have no interest in the site... But! It's been mentioned on the mailing list and forums. See for example https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=233480 and https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=233710
When things that are supposed to be seamless and take place under the hood without user intervention -- don't, for whatever reason, I like to understand why if I'm going to rely on my system. I have never created any key for the keyring so there is no possibility I match the key with a future date problem.
You did though. :p Or rather, the archiso may have seeded it for you...
I'll search again through the forums to see how to completely dump and restore my arch keyring because --init --updatedb --refresh-key don't work. And, no, I'm certainly not going to trust and social media "Hey, try this..." to fix the problem.
--init does nothing if you already have a secret key in your keyring, broken or not. --updatedb --refresh-keys assumes that your keyring is not broken, and updates it with new information. You need to fix a broken keyring though, which is different. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User